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Title: AMIGA.org Server Outage
Post by: amigakit on March 22, 2024, 09:54:07 AM
Apologies for the Amiga.org server outage yesterday. 

Unfortunately there was a water leak in the UPS room of the data centre so all servers had to be powered down.   Engineers worked through the night to remedy the problem.

We are awaiting for our servers to be powered on and reboot one by one.

At time of writing we are awaiting AmigaKit.com and AmigaWorld.net to be restarted.   Amiga.org, AmiSphere and AmigaDeveloper are already back to full operation.

Thank you for your patience.

In the meantime new orders can be placed with us through our sister webstore, AmigaDeals (www.amigadeals.com) (http://www.amigadeals.com)
Title: Re: AMIGA.org Server Outage
Post by: kolla on March 22, 2024, 01:11:49 PM
Eggs, basket…redundancy.
Title: Re: AMIGA.org Server Outage
Post by: nbache on March 22, 2024, 03:11:32 PM
Eggs, basket…redundancy.
... money ...

Best regards,

Niels
Title: Re: AMIGA.org Server Outage
Post by: kolla on March 22, 2024, 08:58:52 PM
... money ...

Are you saying AeonKit is short on money?
A failover/backup site wouldn't cost much, really.
Title: Re: AMIGA.org Server Outage
Post by: nbache on March 22, 2024, 10:00:47 PM
Are you saying AeonKit is short on money?
A failover/backup site wouldn't cost much, really.
I have no idea if they are short on money. But I doubt many people/compaines in this business earn loads.

Best regards,

Niels
Title: Re: AMIGA.org Server Outage
Post by: Boing-ball on March 22, 2024, 11:48:45 PM
Why would you have a DR solution or a fallback system? It’s NOT that mission critical for a forum site…. Would be catastrophic if this was a financial institution. So why waste monies. Other forum sites like EAB don’t have any fall over setup. They even had to have a fund raiser to get a new server recently.
Title: Re: AMIGA.org Server Outage
Post by: kolla on March 23, 2024, 02:49:40 AM
@Boing-ball
Not just this forum - pretty much their entire business
- _all_ amiga.org
- amigaworld.net
- amistore and amisphere services
- store.amigakit.com (_all_ amigakit.com)
- amigakit.amiga.store
- various a-eon.com sites
- a600gs.com
+ who knows what else
Title: Re: AMIGA.org Server Outage
Post by: BozzerBigD on March 25, 2024, 11:26:47 PM
@Thread

Is this how they kill AmigaWorld.net in order to boost Amiga.org? Why is one shut down while another site uses the bandwidth?
Title: Re: AMIGA.org Server Outage
Post by: Karlos on March 26, 2024, 04:40:04 AM
amigaworld.net has been down for days now.
Title: Re: AMIGA.org Server Outage
Post by: BozzerBigD on March 26, 2024, 06:39:26 AM
@Karlos

Exactly! And we all saw how a prolonged shutdown affected Amiga.org traffic! This will divert people to Amiga.org or English Amiga Board and it's unlikely AmigaWorld will recover if they keep it down too long! Is that the idea?
Title: Re: AMIGA.org Server Outage
Post by: F0LLETT on March 26, 2024, 02:34:50 PM
@Karlos

Exactly! And we all saw how a prolonged shutdown affected Amiga.org traffic! This will divert people to Amiga.org or English Amiga Board and it's unlikely AmigaWorld will recover if they keep it down too long! Is that the idea?

@Thread

Is this how they kill AmigaWorld.net in order to boost Amiga.org? Why is one shut down while another site uses the bandwidth?

All I can say is wow!!!! The things you come out with sometimes. They are on completely different servers, just unfortunate the server it is on took longer to power back up.
I don't understand what the problem is. My own server never went down, but it has effected my daily backups as my server provider uses same data centre that went down for backup data.

Sure you can have loads of mirrors, but if something happens that can effect most of them. Doesnt it defeat the point. You cant predict what can happen tomorrow, regardless of how many reduncencies you have.

Its back up now.

Shame they had to replace tons of cabling, else it would have been sorted days ago.
Title: Re: AMIGA.org Server Outage
Post by: kolla on March 27, 2024, 05:20:01 AM
Well, this is sysadm 101 stuff - plan for disaster - don’t put services and backups (eggs) all in the same physical location (basket). And it’s never been easier to make services georedundant, just about all providers offer multiple geographically separated sites and tons of tooling to help implementing proper redundancy. It’s easily worth the effort.
Title: Re: AMIGA.org Server Outage
Post by: BozzerBigD on March 27, 2024, 08:20:16 AM
@F0LLETT

Thanks! That didn't take that long! Any more Amiga forum outages and I think Discord and Facebook will take over permanently! Just a worry I have!

Thanks for all the work you do and glad you have all your infrastructure intact to launch the A600GS. Good luck!
Title: Re: AMIGA.org Server Outage
Post by: F0LLETT on March 27, 2024, 09:06:29 AM
Well, this is sysadm 101 stuff - plan for disaster - don’t put services and backups (eggs) all in the same physical location (basket). And it’s never been easier to make services georedundant, just about all providers offer multiple geographically separated sites and tons of tooling to help implementing proper redundancy. It’s easily worth the effort.

Well I have a working backup server of amiga.org, so we are good there, :).

@F0LLETT

Thanks! That didn't take that long! Any more Amiga forum outages and I think Discord and Facebook will take over permanently! Just a worry I have!

Thanks for all the work you do and glad you have all your infrastructure intact to launch the A600GS. Good luck!

We did'nt take a week, the server provider did. They had a serious issue. Its now resolved.
Full info on outage is on amigaworld.
Title: Re: AMIGA.org Server Outage
Post by: BozzerBigD on March 27, 2024, 04:50:48 PM
@F0LLETT

Take a compliment when it's offered. As an aside, I am happy with THEA500 Mini but again I think it's only right to wish you every success with your A600GS launch. Much love!