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Offline qwaloTopic starter

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hello,
i want to install an untested hard disk and an untested pc emulator A2088XT.

Given:
- Amiga 2000 working well
- Kickstarter 1.2
- Drawbridge (pc to amiga floppy disk)
- Floppy disks
- different versions of Workbench
- Janus installation floppy disks

I boot workbench 1.3 and deleted the most not necessary tools from workbench.
if i install janus the installer told me there is not enough space on the workbench disk.
if i remove all tools, the installation disk can not boot fastmem missing.

=> How can i install janus and get rid of the no space left error?
==> I check the manual, but there is only the hint to remove not necessary tools, i remove most tools, but that was not enough.
=> How can i install the old RLL harddrive from seagate?
=> How can i test both hardware?

==> I think all jumpers were set okay, because the hardware was inserted in the amiga.
 

Offline SACC-guy

set up the 2000 with 1.3 harddrive first, but.. and because booting from floppy is slow

lots of questions because your description is lacking..

what scsi controller is is your machine, what roms?

kickstart 1.3 will auto mount the hardware
but you will have to setup the hard drive (unless it's all ready setup)
do you have any 2000 docs (books)? they are online!

after the 2000 is booting from the amiga hard drive
it will be a lot easier installing the bridgeboard software

there are lots of steps to follow

good luck
« Last Edit: April 09, 2023, 04:15:47 AM by SACC-guy »
 

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Hi,
sorry for the confusing message.

The Seagate hard disk is connected through an Seagate ST11R ISA controller.
i have no driver disk found.

i don not know howto to install the hard disk.

greetings
 

Offline SACC-guy

let's talk..

do you have or want a 1.3 rom (it adds hard drive compatible) for the 2000 (better yet 3.1rom)?
the 1.3 enhancer pack came with a how to install and setup book and disk! it's online! google is your amigo!

Do you have or want a bootable scsi or other controller?

BTW, it sounds like the seagate controllor and hard drive are for the bridgeboard (that's for later)

the bridgeboard can be setup on floppy but.. that was twenty years ago
 
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hi,
thanks for the reply.
in the first step i want to test the drive and emulator card.
i can burn roms, i ve several programmer.
is kickstarter > 1.2 recommended?

How can i install the harddrive, i ve found no information.
Can sb help me with the setup.

i dont know if the seagate drive is only for the emulator or the amiga itself.

thanks
 

Offline SACC-guy

one point three is the lowest!
It has code to see auto booting hard drive

also, you want  to figure out if there's a amiga user group for local help

You will need install 1.3 disk.
It has tools to prep and format the hard drive.

But what you need most are the docs.. which are on line  google for them!!

So much information.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2023, 07:12:24 PM by SACC-guy »
 

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Hi,
sorry for the next question.
i can not test the hard disk with kickstarter 1.2 and workbench 1.3 or 3.1?
Thanks
 

Offline SACC-guy

here is google text for bridgeboard manual

BridgeBoard Manual.pdf

Sure you can experiment all you want
« Last Edit: April 10, 2023, 10:26:36 PM by SACC-guy »
 

Offline Jope

hello,
i want to install an untested hard disk and an untested pc emulator A2088XT.

Given:
- Amiga 2000 working well
- Kickstarter 1.2
- Drawbridge (pc to amiga floppy disk)
- Floppy disks
- different versions of Workbench
- Janus installation floppy disks

I boot workbench 1.3 and deleted the most not necessary tools from workbench.
if i install janus the installer told me there is not enough space on the workbench disk.
if i remove all tools, the installation disk can not boot fastmem missing.

=> How can i install janus and get rid of the no space left error?
==> I check the manual, but there is only the hint to remove not necessary tools, i remove most tools, but that was not enough.

You can remove unneeded keymaps, device drivers, handlers and libraries too to save space. A bit of a wide subject, but look in l, libs, devs to see more files. You can most likely use google to figure out what they do and whether you need them.

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=> How can i install the old RLL harddrive from seagate?

This will be visible on the DOS side of things, so once you have the Janus software running, it might already be set up for you.

XT RLL controllers will have their own bios hook that adds the hard drive to the PC. The controller will read the info off the beginning of the hard drive and adds the bios hook.

Now after that if you want to use it on the Amiga side, you need to set it up via JANUS. Please read the bridgeboard manual. A Janus hard disk will not autoboot on the Amiga even with kick 1.3, you will have to use a boot floppy.

If the drive was not low-level formatted for use with this controller, you will need to perform that before it will show up on the PC side. LLF on an MFM/RLL controller is usually performed with a tool that resides on the controller card's ROM. You boot up DOS from a floppy, then use the debug tool to jump directly into the lowlevel routines in the ROM. Your specific card's manual will tell you this, again google time.

I have to say that you chose a task that requires you to know quite a bit of AmigaOS and also how an ancient PC is set up to succeed.
 

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Hello,
i am one step further :-)
i try an different janus version (the oldest) and it was installed without any error *happy*

bu now i ve the next problem. if i start the pc mode, the 5,25 drive starts to read.
but i ve no 5,25 janus dos floppy.

=> Where can i get the version, have the floppy an dos or amiga formated?

Thanks, if i get furhter, i will write it.