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AuthorTopic: Banned for life from English Amiga Board for NO specified reason - Appeal?  (Read 2492 times)

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Offline SpeedGeek

Re: Banned for life from English Amiga Board for NO specified reason - Appeal?
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2022, 02:50:08 PM »
No it's not - no at all, it's enough to just be repetitive.

I did nothing serious to get banned, not at all. Once the "troll stamp" has been cast on you, it is used as excuse for just about anything - "Oh he is just a troll". It was written by certain people (who are not banned btw) that I've been using multiple accounts (untrue), that I was already banned on multiple forums already (untrue at the time), that I have psychologial issues (huh, 'cause everyone's a shrink? No, not at all) and more personal attack nonsense.

There is a tendency in this community that people fall into "camps", where certain "teams" and their "leaders" are glorified beyond what is healthy. It's not unique to Amiga, but this community is so tiny that this social concept is almost purified without much of the complexity found elsewhere. When an alpha-nerd says "troll", the geek followers ("minions") are only happy to act as a mob, across multiple forums and whatever. But it doesn't work in the long run, the world is larger than these bubbles, and technical problems don't vanish just because you get rid of the "trolls" that have been pointing them out. And sometimes alpha-nerds just pull the plug and sign off, leaving the "minions" in confusion, and the projects are left in disarray.

I'm not going to comment on the specifics of your case either. But I was one of the (not banned members) who called you a troll and (not surprisingly) there were many others too.

You had clearly perfected and demonstrated the technique of indirect or implied trolling. Always finding a suggestive or subtle way to turn the discussion negative.

As far as the allegation of having multiple EAB accounts, I doubt it was ever taken seriously by any of the mods. It's actually possible to either prove or disprove this in most cases.

As far as the matter of psychological issues, you have once again underestimated the expertise of the EAB moderating staff:

https://eab.abime.net/member.php?u=46386

P.S. Don't worry this is a troll friendly forum and you are welcome here. ;)
   
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Offline kolla

Re: Banned for life from English Amiga Board for NO specified reason - Appeal?
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2022, 07:45:52 PM »
I'm not going to comment on the specifics of your case either. But I was one of the (not banned members) who called you a troll and (not surprisingly) there were many others too.

Of course there were, the same ones, again and again, that’s what I wrote. I’ve been around long enough to know how this works.

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You had clearly perfected and demonstrated the technique of indirect or implied trolling. Always finding a suggestive or subtle way to turn the discussion negative.

Not for nothing - I’m not negative by default, but when certain Amiga projects again and again turn into shitshows, it’s hard to remain overly positive.

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As far as the allegation of having multiple EAB accounts, I doubt it was ever taken seriously by any of the mods. It's actually possible to either prove or disprove this in most cases.

I am talking about accusations repeatedly made by other forum members, without any mods lifting an eye over that. And I can imagine there is a certain overlap with those who leave complaints.

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As far as the matter of psychological issues, you have once again underestimated the expertise of the EAB moderating staff:

https://eab.abime.net/member.php?u=46386

You can find my name if you search publications in psychological research too, but so what?

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P.S. Don't worry this is a troll friendly forum and you are welcome here. ;)

The way you and ThoR throw the troll term at each other… symptomatic.
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Offline SpeedGeek

Re: Banned for life from English Amiga Board for NO specified reason - Appeal?
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2022, 02:34:11 PM »
Of course there were, the same ones, again and again, that’s what I wrote. I’ve been around long enough to know how this works.

You still don't seem to understand that it was your own behavior (again and again) which invited this response. But regardless of how many complaints were made against you, in the end the mods made their own determination on those complaints.   

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Not for nothing - I’m not negative by default, but when certain Amiga projects again and again turn into shitshows, it’s hard to remain overly positive.


If you don't like a certain Amiga project and you offer a brief, fair-minded and honest criticism that's one thing. But you all to often embarked on a much more destructive and repetitive marketing "Shitshow" against the projects you dislike... and that's exactly how you earn a negative reputation by default.

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I am talking about accusations repeatedly made by other forum members, without any mods lifting an eye over that. And I can imagine there is a certain overlap with those who leave complaints.

Now, why I am not surprised that you failed to win any sympathy, for any unproven accusations made against you? In any case, it proves my point that the mods ignored these accusations in making their own determination on these various complaints.

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The way you and ThoR throw the troll term at each other… symptomatic.

Don't you mean guest11527 (e.g. the anonymous version of ThoR)? Anyway, it seems that for a short time at least, you were both kindred spirits.

IIRC you were happy to reference him to attack my FastCache040+ coding project (on EAB) in the very early stage of it's development. Don't worry, I won't attempt to change your negative opinion of my project. ;)

However, it's interesting to note that you and he apparently had a falling out when he decided to help Hyperion (the Entertainer) become the heroic savior of our beloved Amiga OS. ;D   
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Offline utri007

Re: Banned for life from English Amiga Board for NO specified reason - Appeal?
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2022, 10:19:45 PM »

If you don't like a certain Amiga project and you offer a brief, fair-minded and honest criticism that's one thing. But you all to often embarked on a much more destructive and repetitive marketing "Shitshow" against the projects you dislike... and that's exactly how you earn a negative reputation by default.


This is good and valid point. I really don't understand people's desire to bash other projects and spend hours to it. What they wait dev to do? Something like "I do just like you order me to do" with their 1 000 000 x complaints.

I don't like Vampire, I think it is harmful to 68k scene many ways. I can write my opinion few times, but I don't pop up to Vampire fan's thread and start to repeat it 1000x and trying to convince devs to do like I think they should do.
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Offline Pat the Cat

Re: Banned for life from English Amiga Board for NO specified reason - Appeal?
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2022, 08:07:38 AM »
<shrug>

I've been thrown out of loads of places, Usually for political reasons. A few I've left voluntarily.

EAB was just another bust from my point of view.

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Offline Foebane

Re: Banned for life from English Amiga Board for NO specified reason - Appeal?
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2022, 08:23:35 AM »
Sorry to hear you were banned from EAB, Pat. I'm certain I remember your avatar, if not your name, at least.

I wouldn't give a damn about EAB neither, but what do you do about WinUAE queries?
 

Offline Pat the Cat

Re: Banned for life from English Amiga Board for NO specified reason - Appeal?
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2022, 02:19:52 PM »
Sorry to hear you were banned from EAB, Pat. I'm certain I remember your avatar, if not your name, at least.

I wouldn't give a damn about EAB neither, but what do you do about WinUAE queries?

I don't have any. I'm a Linux user. :)

More importantly, I'm totally cool trustin Toni Wilen. He does have a great record on sorting bugs.

EDIT: You could try Paypaling a donation direct to the guy. Cut out the middle management.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2022, 04:25:03 PM by Pat the Cat »
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