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Re: 3 things I miss from 80s and early 90s movies
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2011, 01:04:30 AM »
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SF in my opinion is where they imagine a certain type of technology/science and visualise it in a future setting where it is prevailent in society. An example of SF would be Steampunk. A society where everything is run by steam. This is my favourite genre in SF. But i also like Clockpunk. An example of Steampunk is Wild Wild West with Will Smith. Other examples of SF include Metropolis and maybe Astroboy. I don't understand how Star Wars is SF or Sci Fi but people just called it that.

Please elaborate on how SW isn't SF/Sci Fi, but WWW is =). In my opinion WWW is even less about technology or science than SW. The steampunk theme is just used as a gimmick, as much as the interstellar theme of SW.

On a side-note, what's your opinion on China MiƩville's steampunkish New Crobuzon novels? I absolutely love his stuff, even if it sometimes gets a bit longwinded.

'Good' SF (if there even exists such a thing as 'good' and 'bad' literature) in my opinion isn't about the future or distant worlds but explores the world the author lives in by means of imagining something 'strange' and extrapolating his/her own world using this 'strange' thing.

In that light SW and WWW both don't really fit this bill (although they can still be very good and entertaining movies!).
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Re: 3 things I miss from 80s and early 90s movies
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2011, 01:24:24 AM »
@runequester:
I recently read an omnibus edition which included The Forever War, Forever Free and Forever Peace. Although they all take place in the same universe (more or less) they're three very different novels. I think I prefer War too =).

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Re: 3 things I miss from 80s and early 90s movies
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2011, 01:28:43 AM »
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@runequester:
I recently read an omnibus edition which included The Forever War, Forever Free and Forever Peace. Although they all take place in the same universe (more or less) they're three very different novels. I think I prefer War too =).
How is Forever Free ? Isn't that one a direct sequel to Forever War?
 

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Re: 3 things I miss from 80s and early 90s movies
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2011, 01:38:17 AM »
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Please elaborate on how SW isn't SF/Sci Fi, but WWW is =). In my opinion WWW is even less about technology or science than SW. The steampunk theme is just used as a gimmick, as much as the interstellar theme of SW.


Maybe, but i think maybe in Wild Wild West there is heavy emphasis on Steampunk and the story is driven by it whereas in Star Wars it's not.
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Re: 3 things I miss from 80s and early 90s movies
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2011, 01:43:16 AM »
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On a side-note, what's your opinion on China MiƩville's steampunkish New Crobuzon novels? I absolutely love his stuff, even if it sometimes gets a bit longwinded.


I honestly couldn't tell you as i'm not a book reader. I'm a university student and my course requires lots of reading so i tend to avoid it outside of my studies. Besides reading is the boring thing ever! *yawn*

But i hope they make into a movie :)

Although i am a fan of Lemony's Snicket's Series of Unfortunate Events. I have so far only seen the movie but plan to read his books one day.
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Re: 3 things I miss from 80s and early 90s movies
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2011, 01:45:03 AM »
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Please elaborate on how SW isn't SF/Sci Fi, but WWW is =).

'Good' SF (if there even exists such a thing as 'good' and 'bad' literature) in my opinion isn't about the future or distant worlds but explores the world the author lives in by means of imagining something 'strange' and extrapolating his/her own world using this 'strange' thing.


Couldn't have put it better myself :)
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Re: 3 things I miss from 80s and early 90s movies
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2011, 01:47:14 AM »
@runequester:
Yep. Peace takes place some 15-20 years after the epilogue of War. Marygay and William are still living on Middle Finger but grow weary of their confinement on this world and rebel in a way against Man. Without trying to spill too much this novel has some Douglas Adams in it (not so much the humour but more some of the philosophical stuff of his books). It's a good read but not as interesting as The Forever War.
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Re: 3 things I miss from 80s and early 90s movies
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2011, 01:53:50 AM »
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I honestly couldn't tell you as i'm not a book reader. I'm a university student and my course requires lots of reading so i tend to avoid it outside of my studies. Besides reading is the boring thing ever! *yawn*

Heathen! Fetch the pitchforks and torches! ;-).
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But i hope they make into a movie :)

Ah, I would love to see it on a big screen. One can hope.
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Although i am a fan of Lemony's Snicket's Series of Unfortunate Events. I have so far only seen the movie but plan to read his books one day.

Hm, I'll check that movie out. Somehow passed me by.

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Re: 3 things I miss from 80s and early 90s movies
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2011, 06:52:24 AM »
Firefly is a decent space western. If you want good but recent science fiction then check out Children of men.

I also miss 80's-style action movies. :(
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Re: 3 things I miss from 80s and early 90s movies
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2011, 06:53:27 AM »
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Heathen! Fetch the pitchforks and torches! ;-).
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Re: 3 things I miss from 80s and early 90s movies
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2011, 06:54:58 AM »
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Firefly is a decent space western. If you want good but recent science fiction then check out Children of men.

I also miss 80's-style action movies. :(


Somewhere along the way, things changed from "good action with some story to string it together" to "loads of story, with some action to string it together"

Less exposition, more facepunching.

I dont dislike story heavy movies, but I prefer it to be one or the other.
 

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Re: 3 things I miss from 80s and early 90s movies
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2011, 07:39:40 AM »
A personal favourite of mine is Event Horizon from the 1990's. I like the way they combine space and supernatural genres in the same movie :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_Horizon_%28film%29
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Re: 3 things I miss from 80s and early 90s movies
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2011, 01:01:38 AM »
I can't remember the last time I actually wanted to watch a new release movie, pretty sure it was "Wog Boy" back in the late 90's. TBH, I have launched my own personal boycott of Hollywood, it is simply one giant crock of horse shit, hopefully it will disappear up it's own arsehole one day.
 

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Re: 3 things I miss from 80s and early 90s movies
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2011, 12:40:47 AM »
Firefly, great stuff. The Core http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0298814/ , good old fashion 50's type scifi disaster flick not afraid to dazzle you with lots of imaginary tech. Mixed reviews but I though it was a good popcorn movie.

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Re: 3 things I miss from 80s and early 90s movies
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2011, 12:43:29 AM »
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A personal favourite of mine is Event Horizon from the 1990's. I like the way they combine space and supernatural genres in the same movie :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_Horizon_%28film%29


You might also enjoy "Sunshine"...
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Re: 3 things I miss from 80s and early 90s movies
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You might also enjoy "Sunshine"...


Interestingly, I didn't. I had hopes, but they were dashed by a number of things including the "teen" caliber of acting.

2012 was OK, but was losing me fast by the last 30 mins.

And the remake of "The Day the Earth Stood Still"... huge waste of time. I didn't even finish watching it.

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