Virtual Studios (such as Cubase) also for AMIGA?

[Karlos]

hooligan wrote:
btw are there some Soundblaster-fans claiming the old SB-cards having an unique sound? ;-)

Probably not, but to be fair those old FM synths can sound pretty damn good routed through some effects processing. I have an ancient yamaha keyboard that I use for that sort of thing.

It all depends on what you personally like the sound of. I happen to like dirty electronic sounds.

Let's face it, the TR808 was about the most unrealistic sounding drum synth possible, that didn't stop it captivating an entire generation of musicians and beyond. They embraced it for what it was, not for what it was supposed to be.

[hooligan]

heres an interesting reading for those who are interested:

http://www.bel.fi/~alankila/blog/2006/06/19/Blep%20synthesis.html

[bloodline]

hooligan wrote:
just one question.. Are you guys high?

I'm not high but I am a bit drunk... Anyway... I can spend a few hours with a bitcrusher and a lowpass filter... or just run a sample through Paula... Native Amiga audio still as it place in electronic music.

[hooligan]

@Bloodline

Having composed hundreds of songs on Amiga I agree with you and Karlos that Paula certainly met its purpose. It did produce damn fine sounds at its time. In 2007, no.. these days there are plugins which can emulate the sound of paula if necessary, and I sure as hell wont be missing it nor using these filters

[Karlos]

hooligan wrote:
@Bloodline

Having composed hundreds of songs on Amiga I agree with you and Karlos that Paula certainly met its purpose. It did produce damn fine sounds at its time. In 2007, no.. these days there are plugins which can emulate the sound of paula if necessary, and I sure as hell wont be missing it nor using these filters

As I said, it comes down to what you personally like the sound of. Evidently, you don't like that particular sound. Plugins are handy but to imply they can do everything you need seems somewhat glib to me.

I prefer use paula to naturally produce lofi electronic sound just as I prefer to use a real guitar to make guitar sounds, rather than some plugin.

[bloodline]

hooligan wrote:
@Bloodline

Having composed hundreds of songs on Amiga I agree with you and Karlos that Paula certainly met its purpose. It did produce damn fine sounds at its time. In 2007, no.. these days there are plugins which can emulate the sound of paula if necessary, and I sure as hell wont be missing it nor using these filters

Well... no plugin can accurately reproduce the Paula sound, yet... Arturia do a nice range of Softsynths... I use their ARP2600, MiniMOOG and Prophet 5 softsynth... which are so close to the real thng it's scary... but if you offered me a real ARP 2600, I'd take it in a second. When it comes to musical instruments, when you use a real device you often get happy accidents!

[Karlos]

. When it comes to musical instruments, when you use a real device you often get happy accidents!

Not to mention instant responsiveness under all conditions. Even a few millisecond delay can be really off putting I find.

[CDE_MusiX]

Mmm... this thread is going very discussive...

For say my real thing, I use a basic AMIGA

[bloodline]

Karlos wrote:

. When it comes to musical instruments, when you use a real device you often get happy accidents!

Not to mention instant responsiveness under all conditions. Even a few millisecond delay can be really off putting I find.

With my MBP and a firewire based audio interface (i use an Edirol FA101), my latency is down to 6ms which is fine for me :-)

[Karlos]

That's pretty good, I reckon I could probably cope with that for live playing. It's when you get a 50ms delay coupled with choppiness once the polyphony creeps up I find annoying. No cure for that except to upgrade.

[bloodline]

Karlos wrote:
That's pretty good, I reckon I could probably cope with that for live playing. It's when you get a 50ms delay coupled with choppiness once the polyphony creeps up I find annoying. No cure for that except to upgrade.

yeah, I'd say it's only really been the last couple of years that computers (and more importantly laptops) have been able to get the latency low enough for some serious good stuff. I use one MBP for softsynths, and one running Ableton as a live effects unit (3ms latency in the input, 3ms on the output... amazing the power of thses machines!!!!!!)!!!

[spihunter]

@hooligan,

I'm not high I probably just write/listen to different music than you do.

I'm not saying that Paula has "state of the art" sound. I'm just saying that its great for getting unique retro sound.

People do the same with the C64 and SID. That was the comparison I was making.

For the record I like Budweiser better than most Champagne and I'm Canadian.  :-o

[hooligan]

For the record I like Budweiser better than most Champagne and I'm Canadian.

Wow.. I didnt know anyone who prefers Budweiser over anything :-)

Me, i'd choose tapwater.. same taste, but its free ;-)

[Jose]

On high end there's 3 good ones. HDRec, ProStationAudio and AudioEvolution. They don't have the wide variety of state of the art plugins available on other architectures but provide decent non linear audio editing. Besides, you can use external hardware for processing and just do the NLE on them. Can't remember if any supported 24bit though, maybe AudioEvolution does.
Don't know about Octamed to be honest never tried it. But then again I just play guitar and record a few riffs here and there (wich hopefully will turn into songs some day;))