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Re: Still confused 8375 Agnus
« on: May 24, 2009, 11:12:17 AM »
BBoAH isn't accurate on Agnus details. There is at least one 1 MB 8375 version - I got a batch directly from C= when I ordered ECS replacements for A500/2000.
 

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Re: Still confused 8375 Agnus
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2009, 01:06:10 PM »
That was a highly informative thread, wish the details would make it into BBoAH - have you tried emailing the maintainer?

To my mind the four digits code is so misleading that we should use the long codes only.
 

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Re: Still confused 8375 Agnus
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2009, 08:20:17 PM »
2 MB Agnuses are NOT compatible with any A2000 (nor A500) without adaptation. The adapter defines which kind of Agnus you need, the A3000 or the A500+/A600 one.
 

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Re: Still confused 8375 Agnus
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2009, 08:15:57 PM »
You're pretty much on the right track now - the main point is: there are three different versions/flavors/pinouts of (PLCC) Agnus:
- the one from A500/2000/CDTV - controls 1 MB RAM, older revisions can only use 512 K of that as chipmem, the other 512 K are pseudo fastmem
- the one from A3000 - controls 2 MB chip RAM, A3000s had 1 MB chipmem out of the box, but are easily upgradable
- the one from A500+/A600 - controls 2 MB chip RAM, machines again had 1 MB out of the box but are easily upgradable

That leaves the A500/2000 owners with the wish to upgrade to 2 MB chip. Here come the adapter boards (Mini Megi et al), allowing to fit an 2 MB-Agnus (A3k mostly) on a otherwise not suited mainboard. Which of the 2 MB chips they require depends on their design - the A3k Agnus was first, so it was favoured.

PS: what seriously confuses me is that BBoAH talks about the A500+ as if it has the same chipmem as the A500, even the A501+ is stated to be a 512K expansion. The printing on the board also says so even though it clearly carries 8x 514256 chips = 1 MB! Can someone enlighten me? Is there an A500+ and another A500 Plus and I've been mixing them up all along???
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Re: Still confused 8375 Agnus
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2009, 06:52:19 PM »
After a bit of research I found out that I wasn't completely wrong all this time (but not completely right either):
Some early A500+ actually used (old) A500 rev 7 mainboards (1 MB Agnus with 512 KB onboard) but apparently they got the '+' for the 2.04 ROM they featured. 'Real' A500+ have a 2 Meg Agnus and 1 MB onbard, of course.

Again BBoAH isn't too precise here, as it talks about 'OCS' and 'ECS' versions in that respect, neglecting that the 1 Meg Agnus is ECS already (OCS is 512 K chip and 512 K 'ranger').
 

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Re: Still confused 8375 Agnus
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2009, 09:31:15 AM »
Quote from: AmigaPixel;508478
In regards to the Mini Megi and other adapter boards, I would think the 8375 work in those too.


Which one? 8375 exist with all three different pinouts...