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Offline ronniebeck

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Re: vampire a1200, ever?
« on: September 14, 2018, 08:33:22 AM »
The place to ask/check this question is at the Apollo Forum at http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php.  And this question has been asked many times already.  It was always the plan to release the A500 and Standalone versions of the V4 as stated here: http://wiki.apollo-accelerators.com/doku.php/faq.  The A1200 would come after that.  They Apollo Team have said this many times. 

Being a forum, I am allowed to speculate a little, and so this is my conjecture.  I believe that it will come.  But to my mind it makes no sense to do that immediately, despite how long we have waited already.  Why?  Keeping a project as simple as possible is key to ensuring its success.  Complexity kills (and there are enough of us here who do project work professionally who know this first hand).  The scale of what is being done in the Apollo Project and Vampire cards is not to be underestimated.  Implementing a new version of the 68k CPU with all of the new features and performance benefits it brings is no easy thing.  Coupled with the fact that they also developed an AGA re-implementation which is nearing release (there are plenty of youtube videos demonstrating this feature).  Maturing these technologies is crucial before spinning too many iterations in the form of accelerators.  Making a A1200 version of all this (the V4 I mean), before a single other version has had time to solidify, would in my opinion over complicate things. My supposition is that once the stand-alone and A500 have been released and had the time to benefit from real-world use and the bug-fixes that will naturally ensue, the A1200 would have a better chance of being a reliable release.  Also spreading ones resources too thinly across too many endeavours, no matter how similar, is not going to speed anything up either.

The clues are already there though.  Look at what we already see and know.  The Apollo Core (CPU and RTG implementation) has matured a lot already and is in use on the V2 cards.  We already know that the standalone and the A500 versions exist as internal test units and several testers have posted videos showing them working.  We also know, from the activity Apollo Team's last monthly activity report, that they sought the advice of Altera to help with V4 and a few months prior they mentioned they had solved a long standing timing bug.  My guess is that these issues were a big source of the delays.  We also know that Majsta (the guy who designs and produces the hardware), went to great lengths to source A1200 connectors.  If I were a betting man, I would bet that we might see the stand-alone and A500 versions in there full glory on the 21st of September as the "surprise" they mentioned.  And then it would be reasonable to ask the question to the Vampire guys: So are you going to produce an A1200 version now?

I am sure it will come one day.

The clues are here:
https://youtu.be/F-egp3pWr1w?t=2245
http://wiki.apollo-accelerators.com/doku.php/faq
http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php (various posts from BigGun and Majsta speak to the A1200 version)

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