Prometheus

[lassie]

Im one of like 3 people who actually liked Alien 3 and Resurrection though I won't dispute they were not as amazing as the first two.

Prometheus reminded me a lot of reading old scifi where it's not really about the characters, as much as it's about what the writer wanted to show us. The characters are there as a vehicle to make that happen. And people aren't very used to that, I think.


There were a lot of weird little "this doesn't make sense if you think about it", but you know..you just gotta live with that


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A few things that stood out to me as "strange questions":

There's murals of the xenomorphs but they haven't been created yet. The movie later seems to follow that the goo creatures evolve towards that form, but were they intended to do so all along?

The android finds green goo while exploring. It's probably just a fan service moment to remind us of Aliens, but assuming there was indeed a xenomorph outbreak (or some other mutant critters)...it'd have happened 2000 years ago. Doubt it'll stay moist when they show up to explore.

A lot of bad horror movie character decisions of course (getting lost in a cave, while in radio contact with the guys that have a 3D map, petting alien snake beasts etc)

Why did one engineer stay behind in cryo freeze and how did he survive whatever killed the rest?

Sure, it's science-magic, but how did the alien squid grow to monster size, without anything around to eat and gain mass?


Probably thousands more

I also like Alien 3 sure it was not like the second where there was lot of action But it was cool in a different way.

[lassie]

So I finally watched this, and I guess most of the rage has died down. So...what was people's thoughts?

I fundamentally liked it. I guess I can see why people were disappointed...dialogue was weak, the script sort of didn't make a ton of sense and some things were obvious fan service / made up on the spot.

It was entertaining though, it was gorgeously shot and the "alien infection extraction" scene was one of the few times a movie has actually made me feel queasy.

What was people's thoughts?

I just got this on Blu Ray today, i guess it is time to see it

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You won't regret it. I loved it. Can't wait for the next one.

Yes it was very good I have read so many bad reviews on IMDB, so i was afraid it was going to be bad, but they were wrong, cool movie.

[lassie]

I loved it. I would put it down as one of my fav movies of all time.

As far as being a sequel/prequel goes it is far superior to the other ones that were made. All they acomplished was to cheapen the franchise. Aliens was pure genius in my opinion but the ones that came after were toilet paper.

I like the idea of having a spirit quest in that they were searching for the meaning of humanity. I thought it was creative and it complemented the overall story of the first 2 movies.

The end sequence with the birth of the first alien queen was the best representation of the alien yet seen (apart from the cafeteria scene in spaceballs).

Do you mean that movie with John Candy?? with the cafeteria scene.

[lassie]

Awful movie, not simply that it didn't live up to hype, but it was terrible. Rubbish plot, unbelievable characters doing unbelievably stupid things, and completely gash creature design.

In at least 2 fits of insanity I wrote a couple of articles explaining exactly why its terrible, which I feel probably had a lot to do with Damon (Lost) Lindelof's script re-write at the studios behest, and Sir Ridley for letting them get away with it.... Read if you dare! http://coolhandgraphics.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/prometheus-33-final-insult.html

also includes links to some interviews with some of the villains of the piece - full of excuses as to why its so bad.

Of course, if you did like the movie overall, fair enough.

If a movie is hyped up to be the best film ever, it rarely is. But if you see a movie that you only heard bad things about, suddenly it can be a good movie,  hype can be a bad thing sometimes.

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@Lassie. That is what i thought about Avatar. I never even bothered watching the end. I mean, you take out the 3D and the CGI and what is left over? Absolutely nothing. This is a shame as James Cameron is my favoutite director  

@Karlos. Maybe you could provide an example of a sci-fi you approve of? I'm curious to know. Please don't say doctor who.

I have Avatar on bluray but only seen 30 min of it, not my thing i must admit.
There are a movie called Pandorum that is quite cool
and an old b movie set in space, called Dark side of the moon, that is quite cool too.
And the Abyss also a Cameron movie is good

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I love Abyss!

Both Pandorum and Dark side of the moon sound good to me. Will watch soon. Pandorum sounds similar to Event Horizon which can only be a good thing

Yes it is similar to Event Horizon, they are cool both movies
Bear in mind that Dark side of the moon is a low budget movie. Do you like those low budget movies?

There is also a movie similar to the Abyss, it is called Deep star six, cool movie too.
And an old horror movie called Death ship, i find quite unique you should see, if you are in too horror, it is similar to Ghost Ship.

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Only if they are good. I find low budget tends to be more risky and bold which is what art is supposed to be. Big budget scifi is safe and boring. I lost interest in big budget scifi after watching movies like 2012, ID4 and Star Wars ep1.

On the otherhand irobot is one of my favourite movies of all time. It's a nod to old school scifi which is about science which is better than todays "scifi" epics like Men in Black and Star Wars ep1-6 which is just big dumb fun.

Have you seen Chronicle? It's a lost footage movie which i thought was interesting. Also Apollo 18 was good.

Hi i will have to agree with you, they have to be good those low budget, and some are. I have seen low budget movies far better than any big studie could make, and what they do not have in CGI and actors, they make up for in story
I have not seen Chronicle, i will have to check it out.
I have Apollo 18, and it is a good movie. And i just love the old star wars movies.

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Nope, Dr. Who is not my thing.

As I said, I rather prefer written Sci Fi over film, but there are plenty of acceptable examples, including Abyss. I also rather like the Sci Fi / horror crossover, so again Event Horizon, Alien. Even Aliens was OK, on the understanding it's fundamentally an action, rather than horror Sci Fi movie.

Although it had many differences from the book, Dune wasn't bad.

Then there's the whole brain-in-a-jar concept which has been around a lot. The original Matrix was pretty good (but got worse quickly with the second and third parts). Exploring similar ideas of simulated reality (albeit with a very different plot), the Abre los ojos (Open your eyes, the original Vanilla Sky before Cruise and chums butchered it), the 13th floor and Dark City are all interesting films. Even inception was pretty good, though it's not exactly science fiction, though it explores the same quintessential idea of questioning the nature of reality.

What about Predator and Terminator do you like them? I think they are very good, the first one are the best in both films, but both sequels are quite good too i think.

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Predators was an awesome film. Mindless and really intune with the original. The last terminator film was pretty entertaining but i didn't like 3.
 

 
Dark City was good but never watch Inception.

Yes the 3 Terminator movie was not the best.

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For me, Predator was straight action. That the predator was some alien hunter was the only science fiction element it had. I enjoyed the movie for what it was though, a typical of-the-era action move. And besides, who can forget the classic lines "GET TO THE CHOPPER!" and "If it bleeds... we can kill it." :lol:

Terminator was pretty good too. Remember it was a low budget movie but time travel is always an interesting idea to explore, particularly the idea of a conflict waged between two different timelines. After all, the instant time travel is invented, you basically fork reality and the timeline in which the terminator / protectors appear in 1984 become dissociated from the timeline in which they were sent.

Terminator 2 was again rather more straight action, but was, let's face it, awesome. Terminator 3 was weak and salvation wasn't much better.

The Sarah Connor chronicles, on the other hand, showed a lot of promise. It was a shame Fox, in their infinitesimal wisdom canned it like they do so many shows just as they are getting good.

There are some others cool time travel movies like

Timecop
The Butterfly Effect
The Time Machine
Deja Vu
Frequency ( I think it is a cool movie )
Army of Darkness ( funny horror movie )
Back To The Future Trilogy
The Philadelphia Experiment ( Should be a true story )

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Thanks for putting me onto Pandorum. Awesome movie and one of my favs for 2012. Also i recommend Looper. Very very good.

Yes it is a cool movie Pandorum
I will check out Looper.