Would you buy OS4 or MOS for x86?

[Templario]

Whitelisting various models of Intel Macs as they currently do with PPC Macs would be a nice way of releasing MorphOS for x86.

I don't bealive in your words, do you spent 110 euros in MorphOS for x86 when for 90 you have a Windows or the best Linux free? OS4 and Morphos are for PPC or ARM systems, systems much better than x86.

[Digiman]

I would only run RISC OS + Acorn Archimedes emulator on ARM CPU.

[Hattig]

This was done to catch 22 death already.

x86 = a million combinations of hardware. Drivers will never be finished for any x86 version of either. AROS is free anyway.

(answer = no to be clear )

Well let's assume a certain specification of hardware shall we? We don't need to support every PC out there, just a subset. This can be done by specifying supported hardware up front, and deviances aren't guaranteed to work.

In this case, how about targeting AMD's forthcoming Llano processor and surrounding platform?

i.e., 2, 3 or 4 x86-64 cores, 160,320 or 400 AMD/ATI Radeon 6xxx series shaders, UVD3 (video decode), AMD/ATI SB9xx southbridge features (USB3, USB2, SATA3, ...).

Anyway, we know that Hyperion won't allow OS4 to touch x86 of any variety with a bargepole. That's why the question is pointless. You would be better off asking about a port to ARM, or a specific ARM SoC (as different SoCs have different hardware). That would interest me. They could take the time to add memory protection to the OS too, and run the legacy non-MP API in a sandbox.

[itix]

The people who own the 1% of all Macs ever made that are supported you mean?

It is more than enouhg. There is probably a few million Mac computers which are MorphOS compatible.

For x86 you will need to spend 1000s of man hours going from PPC to x86.....then send 1000s more creating drivers for a fraction of the 1 million component combinations still in use that equal the x86 'standard'.

Why? You can limit your support to certain brand of computers.

That's the problem....x86 being a standard is an illusion and the Windows registry file he duct tape holding it together[badly].

PPC is the standard then? Oh right, it is so standard that MorphOS boots even on ACube hardware :-)

[B00tDisk]

This was done to catch 22 death already.

x86 = a million combinations of hardware. Drivers will never be finished for any x86 version of either. AROS is free anyway.

Drivers will never be finished for any PPC version of the former, either...

[commodorejohn]

Meh, no. I like the Amiga OS because it's a coherent part of a whole hardware + software system, and the hardware is interesting to play with. x86 PC hardware, whatever its other merits, hasn't really been interesting since the 486 era. When I'm on x86, I'll go with one of the established x86 OSes; when I'm on the Amiga, I'll go with Kickstart 3.1.

[Iggy]

For x86 not, for ARM and for PPC yes.

My opinion too. Therefore I voted to wait for the Amitendo.

[Khephren]

not for me...but hit me with an ARM poll
Actually, I have not used either. So it would be rude to choose.

[runequester]

My opinion too. Therefore I voted to wait for the Amitendo.

Did we hire you already?

[Iggy]

Did we hire you already?

I'm surprised that Franko hasn't already revealed my secret employment by C=USA.Unfortunately, I already crashed the Bugatti Veyron they gave me.

[gertsy]

Pancake in CD Rom tray....I wonder....?

[Iggy]

Pancake in CD Rom tray....I wonder....?

Don't you dare tell my insurance agent about that. I'm still waiting for the check.

[lsmart]

x86 = a million combinations of hardware. Drivers will never be finished for any x86 version of either. AROS is free anyway.

This is true. Unfortunately AROS doesn´t suport any hardware I ever used in my life. I tried. Even at work.

So the point is not wheter it supports all hardware.

The point is whether it supports yours.

BTW. The same is true for MorphOS. While I owned about 8 Macs in my life, none of them was on the list. And I always bought the most recent popular models from 2000 to 2008.

[runequester]

This is true. Unfortunately AROS doesn´t suport any hardware I ever used in my life. I tried. Even at work.

So the point is not wheter it supports all hardware.

The point is whether it supports yours.

BTW. The same is true for MorphOS. While I owned about 8 Macs in my life, none of them was on the list. And I always bought the most recent popular models from 2000 to 2008.

I keep checking AROS occasionally.
Some day, I'll dig around for cheap old hardware from the supported list, and put together a little AROS machine, but for now, it refuses to play nice with my computer.

[Kronos]

I don't bealive in your words, do you spent 110 euros in MorphOS for x86 when for 90 you have a Windows or the best Linux free? OS4 and Morphos are for PPC or ARM systems, systems much better than x86.

Yeah, cos noone ever thought of porting Linux onto PPC and there is no way one could run OSX-Tiger under MOL or even Leopard directly....

Guess what, all my MorphOS capable HW has exactly 1 OS installed.

[nyteschayde]

The people who own the 1% of all Macs ever made that are supported you mean?

For x86 you will need to spend 1000s of man hours going from PPC to x86.....then send 1000s more creating drivers for a fraction of the 1 million component combinations still in use that equal the x86 'standard'. That's the problem....x86 being a standard is an illusion and the Windows registry file he duct tape holding it together[badly].

You know it's funny. Everybody always brings up the thousands of drivers that would need to be written. I really don't think the situation is that dire. How is supporting one type of motherboard (or chipset) plus one or two types of graphics cards and same thing for sound and whatever else any different than buying the (very) few supported cards for a mediator or G-REX.

You don't have to support them all to make it work and we'd still be able to buy the hardware fairly cheaply given it's X86 hardware; much cheaper than buying the PPC hardware. Even if you only supported one video card, one sound card and one motherboard chipset it would be fine as long as you chose common variants to work with.