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Offline Hell Labs

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Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2010, 10:17:27 PM »
tbh if I was going to listen to music and use an amiga at the same time it'd just pop a tape in my stereo.
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Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2010, 10:44:34 PM »
I remember playing mp3s with "play" I think. I used to boot with no startup sequence and switch all CPU burst/cache on etc. and it was still pretty poor. If you are going down the accelerated route, consider an A1200... you can then go for 060 power and AGA. The Accelerators on the A1200 (esp 030) will be cheaper than an A500 030 I would think - the supply and demand equation.
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Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2010, 11:50:57 PM »
Quote from: koshman;543350
Well, 14bit is certainly better than 8bit, but "good quality" in absolute terms is stretching it...


I wouldn't agree. I used to have my Amiga connected to my stereo and used to play all of my CDs over SCSI via 14 bit audio. The quality was pretty good - with the exception of the CDs used to test audio gear, my audiophile friend could not tell the difference between the Amiga and a good CD player.

Considering how horrible MP3s sound, you're not losing anything at all by going with 14 bit Amiga audio over anything else.
 

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Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2010, 11:59:19 PM »
Or you can just use your windows or mac pc for that, freeing your amiga for more important tasks. See windows or mac ARE useful after all.
 
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Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2010, 12:01:55 AM »
It depends on how you do it.  i used a cobra '030 @40 mhz with 16 mb ram with a little cli script I found on aminet that brought up a requester to choose your mp3 and invoke lame to play it.  I don't remember the settings for lame, but it sounded fine in 4 channels 8 bit stereo on the 1084. I also had Executive going as well. Thing is if I had a music player instead of the script to do it the cpu load doubled and there was no perceived improvement in quality.
 

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Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2010, 01:24:25 AM »
I did a little video of my 030 (A1200) playing MP3's over on youtube (starts at 3:00).  The sound quality is really crap though due to the video camera I was using.
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Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2010, 01:30:26 AM »
I used to use Jormamp back in the day.  It was a very very very lightweight program.

Last time I played an MP3 on an Amiga was back in 2005.

I decided to give up  :(

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Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2010, 02:11:51 AM »
With an apollo 68040 and 16 mbytes ram i remember i could play some mp3 mainly mono ones fine on my amiga.I remember i used a version of a program that looked like winamp.Nowdays with a 68040 amiga what are the options?Is there a more optimized version of programs to play mp3 ?Also since storage is unlimitied practically with large harddrives would i be bettter playing wav files on amiga than mp3 ?

I only want to setup to a ide to cf card interface a wb 3.1 installation.I dont want 3.9 or boing bangs,just a setup with mui,and latest sfs and whdload.Then on another ide channel maybe using idefix i could probably load a 160 gigabyte partition full with wav files right?
 

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Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2010, 02:21:31 AM »
Quote from: Hell Labs;543367
tbh if I was going to listen to music and use an amiga at the same time it'd just pop a tape in my stereo.


Providing one finds the squeal of ancient cassette mechanisms and the crunchy crispy sound of tapes being eaten "music" (and if you're an industrial music enthusiast, you just might!) then that's a good solution.

I mean, providing one would want to waste their time tracking down a tape deck and a cassette to play.
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Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2010, 02:25:34 AM »
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With an apollo 68040 and 16 mbytes ram i remember i could play some mp3 mainly mono ones fine on my amiga.I remember i used a version of a program that looked like winamp.Nowdays with a 68040 amiga what are the options?Is there a more optimized version of programs to play mp3 ?Also since storage is unlimitied practically with large harddrives would i be bettter playing wav files on amiga than mp3 ?

I only want to setup to a ide to cf card interface a wb 3.1 installation.I dont want 3.9 or boing bangs,just a setup with mui,and latest sfs and whdload.Then on another ide channel maybe using idefix i could probably load a 160 gigabyte partition full with wav files right?


I think the problem of playing WAV's on an Amiga is that the files will be very large and you might have trouble streaming them from disk (depending on file system used etc).
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Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2010, 03:30:18 AM »
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Well, 14bit is certainly better than 8bit, but "good quality" in absolute terms is stretching it...
Not when you use a proper 14 bit calibration file with a properly down sampled 28000 Khz 16 bit stereo wav. That does sound good. It's absolutely essential, however, that you start with a high quality source, and down sample to 28000 Khz with a program such as Sox (Windows). Sox down samples properly, and in combination with said calibration file (CyberSound) the quality is definitely good (much better than you'd expect). Uncalibrated and/or no good down sampling doesn't sound so good, of course.
 

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Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2010, 03:40:28 AM »
SoX, you say? :)
 

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Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2010, 03:44:12 AM »
Quote from: nikodr;543405
With an apollo 68040 and 16 mbytes ram i remember i could play some mp3 mainly mono ones fine on my amiga.I remember i used a version of a program that looked like winamp.Nowdays with a 68040 amiga what are the options?Is there a more optimized version of programs to play mp3 ?Also since storage is unlimitied practically with large harddrives would i be bettter playing wav files on amiga than mp3 ?

I only want to setup to a ide to cf card interface a wb 3.1 installation.I dont want 3.9 or boing bangs,just a setup with mui,and latest sfs and whdload.Then on another ide channel maybe using idefix i could probably load a 160 gigabyte partition full with wav files right?


Well running amigaamp was your problem, cpu use would be double what it would need to be.

Not sure why people were having so many problems playing mp3's.  I did it at 28 khz with the '30 and it sounded sweet.  When I got my 68040 Apollo and overclocked it to 40 mhz, on productivity mode on my NEC 3d, I was ripping my CD collection at a 128 bit rate, and playing back in 14 bit stereo at 48 khz.  Sounded brilliant.  Especially played through my stereo amp.
 

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Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2010, 05:13:55 AM »
Yeah, well, I wasn't experimenting too much with it so it might be possible to tune it to sound just fine.
Not on a completely unrelated note - is it possible to output audio from Amiga through digital out on some PCI card in a Mediator? Or is optical/coax unsupported?
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Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2010, 07:40:15 AM »
Here is a video of my A1200 playing an MP3. Sorry for the crap quality.

The A1200 had a Blizzard 1230 and OS3.9, some extra ram and thats it. No additional hardware, and the software i used was built in to OS3.9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5IEXyazalE
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Re: Would I be able to play MP3s with an 030?
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 16, 2010, 08:28:14 AM »
Quote from: Hell Labs;543367
tbh if I was going to listen to music and use an amiga at the same time it'd just pop a tape in my stereo.

Tape? :lol:

Don't tell me. Your 030 macintosh could play 320kbps MP3 no problem whilst simultaneously solving a 1,000,000 particle n-body gravity simulation in realtime.

I used to listen to MP3 files on my A1200, with full graphic equalisation and 14-bit calibrated AHI with AmigaAMP output whilst working away all the time. Mind you, it was using a PPC to do the decoding...
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