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« on: May 19, 2009, 08:21:32 PM »
Sounds like our first volunteer banned user :)

On a serious note, we're making progress.

http://www.amiga.org/gallery

So there dammit.
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2009, 08:27:51 PM »
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Troll alert.

I think you might have to enable neg-reps. :roflmao:
They aren't?  Damn...  {tap tap tap} wait a sec... {tap tap tap}
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2009, 08:48:09 PM »
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Do we need to resubmit our gallery images?
If so should we wait a while until all changes final?

I have 3459 images in an alien format to the new gallery format.  As such, I'm fairly doubtful that I could get them uploaded one by one by myself, and since there's no "mass upload" feature and each upload has to be processed by the system to make thumbnails, I'm doubting even the great Karlos could help with a data migration tool.

I've created the categories as they were on the old system (sans the events categories) but wonder if there might be an adventurous few who'd be willing to help with re-uploading the pics themselves.

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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2009, 08:49:22 PM »
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so I just hate you.

But... but... I luv you hunny bunny, won't you pppppllleeeasse come back?  We miss you so much...

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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2009, 08:59:08 PM »
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I had about 90 images and I don't mind uploading them myself.

Let's see what Karlos has in mind first eh?

@Karlos, yes, GD is installed on the server AFAIK.

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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2009, 10:08:24 PM »
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Just PM me if there is anything I can do.
Thanks very much and I'll certainly keep you in mind, but I believe Karlos thinks he can have it handled  :)

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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2009, 12:29:59 PM »
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are the old pics still sortable by user?
What pics sir?  We're still in the process of bringing over the old gallery.
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2009, 12:52:16 PM »
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Troll - ha.
I can't see any good reason for changing anything in this site.  Many years site collect information about amiga, and now "we moved forward", but why?
John,

There were probably a dozen or so threads where I explained WHY the change was necessary, then explained that we were working on the forums before anything else as they were the most important to save.

Everything else is safe and backed up.

We are just working in the background to bring you the old news, the old image gallery, links engine, and all that stuff back online.  It will take us time to do so.

I *am* sorry that you needed something (an image) "RIGHT NOW" but there is nothing I can do about that and I apologize.  

My only response is to remind you that Amiga.org is, in fact, provided to the Amiga Community as a free service provided by me, supported entirely by the VERY gracious donations of our members.

Neither you, nor I, nor anyone else has any right to expect, or to demand any given level of service here (or any other free web site) as this is our hobby just as it is yours.

Everything that you got used to having access to, be it news, images, links, etcetera is in the process of being restored.  It just won't be using the old Xoops package that we had for several years.

That leaves three options for you sir.

1) Have a little patience and learn to enjoy all the new features here.
2) Start your own Amiga web site and spend the next 15 years collecting data, tools, and images.
3) Find and use another site of your liking.

I realize English is not your first language, so I'm trying not to take the "I just hate you" too seriously.  I'm sorry if that comes across as joking on you but it's been a very stressful couple of weeks.

Sincerely, and with great regards.

Wayne Hunt
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2009, 03:23:23 PM »
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so i prefer to find another server/virtual machine with manualy installed latest php4, and running old cms in original environment, and don't change cms, and spent many days/weeks/(month?) to adapt it and migrate data. In this way we allways lost something..

Again sir, these are things we already addressed in other threads.  PHP was discontinued 3 or 4 years ago and just now ended the support cycle.  No support == no security updates.  That means that NO web host worth having would support it.

Again though, I'm sorry that you feel this site is inadequate and invite you to contribute to make it better.

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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2009, 09:55:51 PM »
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Hmm... no that didn't seem to do anything... :confused:
Rep points, like ranks, happen upon certain milestones, not per each award.

I'll try to post the rep scale tomorrow.

/me adds "to do".
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2009, 01:40:58 AM »
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Hi,
 Dont know if this has been suggested (didnt have time to read all the posts as i have to run) but it would be great to have a Gallery tab at the top of the screen where the other tabs are, you know, Home, Forums, User CP, FAQ, ect ect. Gallery would be very welcomed sitting along the others up there i think.

See the to do list.  The gallery isn't finished yet, hence no link.  Rest assured, it'll get there pretty soon.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/project.php

Any other good ideas go there please.

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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2009, 01:51:05 AM »
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Can we atleast get back the orginal design ..i mean, top banner logo etc?

No.  As I've explained many, many, many times now, I (in no particular order)

1) Don't have the original graphics to work with, and, no, you can't just "put what was up there back" because each menu choice is now different

2) This is a different package.  It works differently and is therefore not as easy to make look as horrible as I consider that 8 year old design.  There is a reason that people rip out old wall paper ya know.. :)

3) I personally got sick of looking at the old design and wanted something newer and fresher.  Granted, the header needs work, but if you'll check, you'll see it's on the to do list.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/project.php

Please send all future good ideas there.. :)

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PPS: i didnt like the last big change on amiga.org either but after a while the site was frequently updating to look better and more functionality/useage so i know you guys can do it for third time in a row :)
Yep.  Last time, Amiga.org was the first and only Amiga site to use Xoops.  You guys HATED it (I wish I still had the messages from back then).  After you guys got used to it, EVERY successor site (AW, then Amigans, then whoever was in between that) ran out and got their own free Xoops package and you guys (and the online community) fell into complacency.

Now 8 years later (10 since we started using Xoops), it's time for the next dramatic "what's next" moment and sure enough, give it six months and give us time to get the news/images/links back online, and you won't even remember "what was"..

You don't remember the yellow Amiga.org days do you???

See??  :)


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stuff ain't showing in OWB although it is in Ibrowse, is that possible to fix for IB aswell?
Unfortunately that's an OWB and/or IB issue.  I'm sure if you asked the author, he could probably fix it on that end much easier than I could break the code to work with the broken browser.

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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2009, 12:06:25 PM »
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You can collapse blocks that you don't want visible.

Thanks...  Just FYI, We will more than likely be upgrading the front page (vBAdvanced) to 3.2.0 this weekend at some point which will include a "customize this page" option, allowing anyone to drag and drop (or add/delete) the windows any way they want them.

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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2009, 12:19:00 PM »
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and being able to view posts in a larger format is excellent.
Yeah, but about 1/2 of the people are complaining about too much "white space".. :)

Like the vote I did earlier on the logo font, every change is a no-win scenario when you get this many people who're so attached to the way things were.

.. but I do appreciate your support.
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