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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #44 from previous page: September 24, 2010, 06:18:02 PM »
I've found a guy who has Philips CM11342/00G for sale but... The monitor seems to have strange inputs.

I don't see Chroma and RGB seems to be modified in a way that won't allow a standard 9-pin RGB cable to be connected...



EDIT: OK, the RGB input is normal. Just the cable is weird, with only one screw. Still, the lack of chroma bothers me since I have a LCA cable for my C64.

What do you guys think about this? Should I buy this monitor?
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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2010, 06:38:38 PM »
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Next time, let me know and I'll come pick them up  and give you Gołąbki! I could at least scavenge a power supply as a  spare.
Be sure to secure one flyback for me.

I've found a guy who has Philips CM11342/00G for sale but... The monitor seems to have strange inputs.

I don't see Chroma and RGB seems to be modified in a way that won't allow a standard 9-pin RGB cable to be connected...



EDIT: OK, the RGB input is normal. Just the cable is weird, with only   one screw. Still, the lack of chroma bothers me since I have a LCA cable   for my C64.

What do you guys think about this? Should I buy this monitor?
 

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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2010, 06:42:08 PM »
The RGB socket is fine, If I recall correctly on that model the CVBS input can be used as Lumma and the phono socket above the audio input can be used Chroma for ... (need to check my through my manuals first...)
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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2010, 06:54:45 PM »
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the phono socket above the audio input can be used Chroma for ... (need to check my through my manuals first...)
More info, please!
 

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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2010, 06:56:16 PM »
Still trying to find the manuals... be back in a bit...
 

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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2010, 07:03:44 PM »
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Still trying to find the manuals... be back in a bit...
I don't believe that this monitor supports LCA. It doesn't only lack Chroma input. It also doesn't have CVBS<=>LCA switch.
 

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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2010, 07:08:06 PM »
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I don't believe that this monitor supports LCA. It doesn't only lack Chroma input. It also doesn't have CVBS<=>LCA switch.


Unfortunately for you, your right, that model doesn't have Chroma & Lumma inputs, these were on other versions that commodore made for different countries. :(

The RGB Connecter pinout's for it can be found here

http://pinouts.ru/Video/C1084dd_pinout.shtml
 

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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #51 on: September 24, 2010, 07:20:11 PM »
That's a FAIL. I love LCA picture from C64... :<

What about the picture on this Philips? Is it as good as on the 1084S? I've read that Philips used worse tubes and the picture wasn't so good. :<
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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #52 on: September 24, 2010, 07:24:45 PM »
I have four 1084s of different styles, can honestly say the picture on them all are fine no matter who manufactured the tube... :)
 

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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #53 on: September 24, 2010, 07:28:32 PM »
Yes, but I've read that it's different with Philips-branded monitors.

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Had one of these and I didn't like it. The  raster was too visible so the pixels weren't beautiful, they look much  better on the original Commodore one.
 

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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #54 on: September 24, 2010, 07:38:43 PM »
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Yes, but I've read that it's different with Philips-branded monitors.


Can only say that the ones I use give an excellent picture, never had any problems with them other than the flyback going on one, but when that went a number of years ago you could still purchase the flyback quite easily... :)
 

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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #55 on: September 24, 2010, 07:41:53 PM »
This monitor is CM8833-II, if that helps.

Any quick reviews?

EDIT: BTW - 1084S is .39 mm dot pitch and this Philips is .42. Maybe it's true that this Philips has worse picture?

I really need some good info soon. If I don't buy this monitor fast, the owner will list it on that auction site that I've told you guys about as a part of an A500 set  and then I won't be able to buy it.
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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2010, 08:08:33 PM »
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EDIT: BTW - 1084S is .39 mm dot pitch and this Philips is .42. .
Are you sure..
I thought all (most?) 1084 variants were .42 dot pitch...??

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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2010, 08:08:39 PM »
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This monitor is CM8833-II, if that helps.

Any quick reviews?

EDIT: BTW - 1084S is .39 mm dot pitch and this Philips is .42. Maybe it's true that this Philips has worse picture?

I really need some good info soon. If I don't buy this monitor fast, the owner will list it on that auction site that I've told you guys about as a part of an A500 set  and then I won't be able to buy it.


Thats one of the ones I've got, it gives a good clean picture, although with age the focus can go a bit. but this is easily rectified by adjusting the focus & or voltage on the flybacks potentiometers. :)

Don't know if your going to be able to view it before you buy first, as buying an old monitor online you're taking the sellers word for it and his opinion that the picture is good and the sellers opinion on what's good can be very subjective. :)
 

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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2010, 08:26:07 PM »
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Are you sure..
I thought all (most?) 1084 variants were .42 dot pitch...?
According to www.amiga-hardware.com/, 1084S is .39 and CM8833-II i .42.
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Don't know if your going to be able to view it before you buy first, as  buying an old monitor online you're taking the sellers word for it and  his opinion that the picture is good and the sellers opinion on what's  good can be very subjective.
I won't be able to see it in real life before I buy it. I only have this pictures:








EDIT: I've bought it. The guy didn't want to wait any longer so I had to decide. I decide to go with it, mainly because it uses flyback HR7533 and that model is cheap and avaiably even in my country so in case of emergency I will be able to repair it. I hope I will not be disappointed and this monitor truly is just like 1084S.
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Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2010, 09:15:57 PM »
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According to www.amiga-hardware.com/, 1084S is .39 and CM8833-II i .42..

I just went there and I see this:

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1084S
 Picture Tube: 14 inch (13 inch viewable), slotted triplet pitch 0.42 mm
From: http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=849

So I think you'll be happy.  It's basically the same monitor spec wise. :-)

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