OS for the X1000

[nicholas]

And it serves only for technology demo. It can not run 68k binaries so it is better run AROS natively on x86 or m68 hardware (i.e. Natami if it ever gets released).

Neither can AROS on x86 so it's just as useless/useful as the PPC port.

99% of AROS software is open source anyway so the CPU architecture it runs on its largely irrelevant.

What AROS PPC does need is binary compatibility with MorphOS and/or OS4 software.

[itix]

What AROS PPC does need is binary compatibility with MorphOS and/or OS4 software.

If AROS/PPC was MorphOS compatible you would need only small 68k emulation layer to make it 68k compatible... but I still dont see point for AROS/PPC. AROS lacks on so many areas but x86 compensates many of its flaws.

[itix]

@amigadave

I know that already... ;-) you can find my name from MorphOS credits and I even developed OS4Emu many many years ago so I know both systems inside out... :-P

(Oh, and I was talking about AROS/PPC in my previous post...)

[nicholas]

If AROS/PPC was MorphOS compatible you would need only small 68k emulation layer to make it 68k compatible... but I still dont see point for AROS/PPC. AROS lacks on so many areas but x86 compensates many of its flaws.

Such as?

[commodorejohn]

All of the above has been available for a long time, so your posts are surprisingly uninformed.  Check out a OS4, or MorphOS forum some time and you will learn a lot more.

Yes, my post was uninformed, because I don't use and have no real interest in OS4 or MorphOS. But as itix wasn't discussing either, I'm not sure that's really all too relevant.

[amigadave]

Yes, my post was uninformed, because I don't use and have no real interest in OS4 or MorphOS. But as itix wasn't discussing either, I'm not sure that's really all too relevant.

I admit I made a mistake regarding itix, but your reply;

Yeah, but it's still a separate emulator, right? Something like the  OS-integrated emulation on Power Macs would be nice for use with  OS-friendly apps.

To Duce and Dreamcast270mhz was not about AROS as they were both writing about OS4 and MorphOS, which is where I then replied to your post above and mistakenly included itix as well, as I thought the conversation was about OS4 and MorphOS at that point.

[sdyates]

Has anyone written a review for the X1000 yet? I  would like to add it to my Amiga page on my Retro computing site. Though, I really should wait until the product gets to market :p

[XDelusion]

I just hope I can fit my penis in the drive bay.

They are always so narrow. :/

[itix]

Such as?

Zune is missing lot of functionality.

[Buzzfuzz]

Ok, I've taken it out of the quote, and now line by line.
 
The AmigaOne X1000 is not like other computers.
 
True, it's not a pc, not a Mac like PPC and nothing like an Amiga.
 
It is the natural evolution of the Amiga's PowerPC lineage and is a culmination of efforts by real Amiga enthusiasts, developers and betatesters to create powerful, modern desktop hardware for the Amiga Operating System.
 
See, Amiga Operating System.
OS 4 has never been a target platform for Amiga's, yes it could run with a PPC card, but not on a basic 030/040/060!
 
So that's what is bold about it, putting a claim on a OS that isn't really for the Amiga, they are saying that OS 4 is also an evolution of Workbench and it's not!
It should be called Hyperion OS instead of Amiga OS and the X1000 is no Amiga either, and their you have it.
 

Buzzfuzz, just out of curiosity, why is this thread titled OS for the X1000, when it clearly nothing about that, it should of been titled "bold statement" or something. Just wondered.

[xeron]

See, Amiga Operating System.
OS 4 has never been a target platform for Amiga's, yes it could run with a PPC card, but not on a basic 030/040/060!

So, Windows never ran on a 286 because Windows 95 required a 486?

Hint: OS4 is a continuation of the OS commodore shipped with the Amiga, based on the same source code base.

[Buzzfuzz]

That is because it checks the hardware, if it dind't do that it could run on it, would slow to a crawl, but can be done with enough memory, every Windows still starts in DOS, although it's not called DOS anymore.
 
Same with OS4, if I don't have the PPC in the Amiga 4000 or 1200, it's install will fail.
I can run 3.1 on an Amiga 500 with kickstart 3.1 and even run 3.1 on 2.04 kickstart, most things won't work, but it will start Workbench.
 

So, Windows never ran on a 286 because Windows 95 required a 486?
 
Hint: OS4 is a continuation of the OS commodore shipped with the Amiga, based on the same source code base.

[commodorejohn]

That is because it checks the hardware, if it dind't do that it could run on it, would slow to a crawl, but can be done with enough memory, every Windows still starts in DOS, although it's not called DOS anymore.

No it wouldn't. Windows 95 runs in 386 protected mode, and could not possibly run on a 286.

[xeron]

No it wouldn't. Windows 95 runs in 386 protected mode, and could not possibly run on a 286.

^ this.

Your analogy fails because Windows 95 wouldn't run on a 286, because the 286 doesn't have protected mode.

[Terminills]

So, Windows never ran on a 286 because Windows 95 required a 486?

Hint: OS4 is a continuation of the OS commodore shipped with the Amiga, based on the same source code base.

Windows did run on a 286.   Windows 95 might not have but Windows 1 - 3.1 most certainly did.

Windows 1.03 on a 286.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMOwaodR5Mo

Windows 3.1 on 286

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Nd52DVGpo

Windows on an XT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItuymzxNUYM

[dammy]

Hint: OS4 is a continuation of the OS commodore shipped with the Amiga, based on the same source code base.

Exactly which AOS source codes were used in OS4?  We all know the OS4 kernel is not based on Amiga IP.   I seem to remember court docs stating that Hyperion didn't use any of Amiga Inc's IP because it was assembly and was useless.  I'm interested to hear exactly what Amiga Inc IP was used in what portion of OS4.