Hyperion: "Halloween special double-treat for the Classic AmigaOS"

[nicholas]

Can someone please clear this up once and for all?

Who the hell owns the 68k OS?

Commodore?
Amiga Inc?
Cloanto?
Hyperion?

[nicholas]

If you have issues about the source code, take it up with the rights holder, please.

Who are they?

Cloanto claim ownership of the whole OS, Hyperion claim to own a licence to distribute it from the latest shell company that McEwen is passing off as the original Amiga Inc.

So who should he take it up with?

[nicholas]

the thing is that it would probably be much more work porting anything os4 to amiga, than simply fixing some known memory leaks in scsi.device. os4 seems to have whole different philosophy in different areas like library interface. note how much hassle its been to make chris os4 netsurf version to work on amiga half a way.

also, what would that material be, that amiga might require from hyperion. i cant think of awful lot.

and also considering the cost, like memory consumption, question is, is it worth it?

I'd like to see the whole of OS4.1 back ported to 68k. Obviously it'd be slow as hell on even an 060 but emulators won't have that problem.

[nicholas]

Things are weird. I'm not exactly clear how Cloanto operates, and how their process for ROM generation works. I have the impression - but I might be wrong - that they are just collecting a couple of third-party extensions, without integrating them into the overall software repository, and just build ROMs by placing modules "near to each other".

This is kind of how Os 3.9 development worked. External "hackers" (including me) contributing updated sources to the Os, as independent contributers. Unfortunately, the "big picture" gets lost this way. As did some souces. )-:

Frankly, it's not exactly how I believe it should work. The current model for this ROM is just a much saner one: One central repository, a common build-process, and an experienced AmigaOs developer keeping control on the "global picture" (Olsen).

I've learned a lot on software development since 3.9 happened, more on the management and deployment side than the actual hacking, and my firm believe is that the second model Olsen is currently trying to implement is the better one.

That this turns out to be a "Hyperion vs. Cloanto" fight is just sad. It would make much more sense to keep development under a common umbrella.

Hyperion have ”earned” a lot of suspicion compared to Cloanto. I can't see them selling more product than Cloanto do to the likes of your average EAB or A1K poster tbh.

[nicholas]

Emulators are already running AmigaOS 4.1, but I agree 68k with FPGA will be faster over time so a backport could be possible, desirable even. They will probably made more money than on NG I guess.
Kamelito

I'd just like to have it running on Amithlon.