AmigaOS 4.1 for 68k, and i got mad :)

[Vulture]

@gulliver

nice finding this contextSAS as all the versions of contextmenus I could find (pre-release even) wouldn't work! thx!

@bernd

I think there should be an option to use AFA_OS with Ratte's solution under 8bit screens for ppl who want it, just optional and anyone does what he likes. I know I'll use it....

[kolla]

@kolla:
icon45.5(and Ibf-version) can display newicons, you just need iprefs and wb.config-prefs setted to newicons.

Yes, so I thought, but I never got it to work on 68000. Since the prefs programs dont work directly on the minimig, I just made settings on a different machine and copied them over, but no success. I can try a bit harder, using the drive image of the minimig directly on UAE, and see if I get it working there.

the 45.5 / 45.4 mysterium is reported by perterk,too.
he found out, that wb.lib 45.1xx is opening icon.lib 45.4 (ecxactly x.4 .. not 4 or higher).
All you can do is ... patch wb.lib to 45.132 and fix that shit
or simply remove 45.4 from (hard)disk and leave 45.5

Oh, so if I have 45.4 there as libs:icon.library_45.4 then wb.lib 45.1xx will find it? And even stranger - 45.4 then works on 68000?

Btw - is 45.5.5 even a legal version string in AmigaOS? Note that this _only_ happens with 45.5.5, not 45.5 - I think only two numbers are allowed, and that this is what causes the problem. As for patching wb.lib, no can do - 45.127 is final version for a 68000, at least for now

Edit: Never mind - I finally read the answers I got on EAB, now I do get it

[nyteschayde]

@nyteschayde

I totally agree. Then get the permisions from the authors, make the scripts and i will put them online!

You've got a PM.

[Varthall]

And.... once and for all:

OS 4 -> MUI 3.9
OS 4.1 -> MUI 4 -> MUI 20.294 (26.06.2008)  (c) 1992-2008 Stefan Stuntz, AmigaOS4/PPC

I have both AmigaOS cds so i am not kidding! (Anyway it is no big issue itself)

I use OS 4.1 with all the updates and both MUI/Readme.AmigaOS4 and the MUI prefs program indicate "MUI 3.9". "version full muimaster.library" returns

muimaster.library 20.2290 (27-Jul-2008)
(c) 1992-2008 Stefan Stuntz, AmigaOS4/PPC

I believe 20.x versions are the 3.x ones, don't know what version uses MUI 4.0.

Varthall

[wawrzon]

@bernd, ratte:
i actually do not care much about the quality of remapping only that i dont want an obviously trashed display. a simple but fast way is fine with me and i believe even if it doesnt look perfectly it will still look better that what afa at the moment displays <16bit. and people will not complain. i myself have gfx boards in my main amigas, p4 and voodoo, and some cv64 lying around, but i want to have aga and <16bit option under afa.

also i like an idea of monochrome workbench. if need be. lately i tested my skin and original workbench look at 1680x1050 in pure blackandwhite. it looked great!

[quarkx]

Er, there have been at least 3-4 Picasso II boards on eBay that sold in the $100 range (some cheaper, like $70) in the last month or two alone.  Picasso IV is another story, obviously, but I think there are enough RTG boards to go around if you don't need an integrated scandoubler.

edit: and if you want new, Softhut was supposed to be putting some Spectrum boards out (ZIII anyone?): http://www.softhut.com/cgi-bin/test/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=catalog/hardware/accelerators/gvp_spectrum.html&cart_id=4661352_82831 albeit at a slightly higher price than used cards.

Umm, how do I say this without sounding sarcastic? The stuff available on E-bay.COM IS NOT the same stuff on EBAY.CA. Most US sellers refuse to ship to Canada and therefore doesn't show up on Ebay.ca. I have found it useless to even look at ebay.com because the attututed of most American sellers. I use to spend hours sending e-mails asking "will you ship to Canada" and now I have just given up. Bottom line, if it doesn't show up on Ebay.ca, it doesn't exist.

[tone007]

Bottom line, if it doesn't show up on Ebay.ca, it doesn't exist.

..Most of the Amiga stuff isn't in Canada (what the hell is?) and a whole lot of it isn't in the US.  Most European Amiga sellers ship internationally in my experience, and any seller in the US who knows about the international Amiga market will as well. If you want to be a feeb and not search worldwide, bottom line, you're just going to miss out on alot of Amiga stuff that you could've gotten.  Complaining about it just makes you look ridiculous.  I've personally bought 3 or 4 video boards in the last year from international sellers, at decent prices.

edit: Let me at least try and be a little helpful and explain exactly how this works.

Log in to your eBay.ca
Do a search
Check the "Worldwide" option

The results you see will only be auctions that are listed as shipping worldwide or to your country.

[matthey]

I've personally bought 3 or 4 video boards in the last year from international sellers, at decent prices.

Aboma is going to put an end to that. Amiga's are valuable and the U.S. dollars is not . More Amiga users will probably start selling overseas. I've got some Amiga hardware to sell but I might as well wait for the dollar to drop another 30% or 40% first. The Fed isn't going to raise rates until we have 10% core inflation and they will still be saying that inflation is not a problem. That's why I own oil, silver, oil, Amiga's, oil, copper, Amiga's, gold and Amiga's .

[quarkx]

..Most of the Amiga stuff isn't in Canada (what the hell is?) and a whole lot of it isn't in the US.  Most European Amiga sellers ship internationally in my experience, and any seller in the US who knows about the international Amiga market will as well. If you want to be a feeb and not search worldwide, bottom line, you're just going to miss out on alot of Amiga stuff that you could've gotten.  Complaining about it just makes you look ridiculous.  I've personally bought 3 or 4 video boards in the last year from international sellers, at decent prices.

edit: Let me at least try and be a little helpful and explain exactly how this works.

Log in to your eBay.ca
Do a search
Check the "Worldwide" option

The results you see will only be auctions that are listed as shipping worldwide or to your country.

 Yes, thats what I do, but like I said, you will see a whole different list.In fact sometimes we see an item, but once you click on it, is says "Sorry,Auction Item XXXXX is blocked for your country" I have gotten 2 A600's for the UK now by searching world wide. But the FACT remains, you see a whole lot more in the US than Canada.

[dannyp1]

Aboma is going to put an end to that. Amiga's are valuable and the U.S. dollars is not . More Amiga users will probably start selling overseas. I've got some Amiga hardware to sell but I might as well wait for the dollar to drop another 30% or 40% first. The Fed isn't going to raise rates until we have 10% core inflation and they will still be saying that inflation is not a problem. That's why I own oil, silver, oil, Amiga's, oil, copper, Amiga's, gold and Amiga's .

If the US dollar was at the level that Bill Clinton left it at before George Bush and a Republican House and Senate were in power everything would look alot rosier right now
We've cut the taxes, now where's the trickle down?

[Gulliver]

@nyteschayde

PM sent! Lets give it a try!

[bernd_afa]

>I think there should be an option to use AFA_OS with Ratte's solution under 8bit screens >for ppl who want it, just optional and anyone does what he likes. I know I'll use it....

Does OS4 work in 8 bit Mode on Workbench, or the cyberstorm OS4 Version work without GFX Card  ?
From MOS i kwow it do not work in 8 bit.I test Chaos Pro which is a fraktal program that support animation thru color cycling of 8 bit palette.colorcycling work well with AFA, but on MOS Cyberstorm color cycling do not work.so it seem not support 8 bit screens also not on custom screens and Cyberstorm.A AGA display i also cant open.

[wawrzon]

@bernd: i do not care if os4 or mos or aros support 8bit or not. it is os3.x after all and since it supports 8bit afa should support it too if only in a fallback mode to guarantee readibility and usibility of such resolutions. by the way os4 supports 8bit as far as i recall, i do not know why it should not. and our aim is to be better than os4;D. so quit arguing, bernd, it doesnt hurt to implement it. the pople that do not need it will not notice, others will bless you.

[bernd_afa]

>by the way os4 supports 8bit as far as i recall,

try out what OS4 do, when it should show a PNG Icon or a OS4 Icon on a AGA /8 bit workbench and how Skins look.

>it is os3.x after all and since it supports

As you can see all modern OS do not support 8 bit in desktop, so it doesnt matter if its AOS for amiga or windows for X86.

>the pople that do not need it will not notice, others will bless you.

right most do not notice it and the other few that want use AFA Workbench on 8 bit need only remove icon library in AFA and new skin system and all is as before.

Users that dont want use a 16 bit desktop, just need no enhanced Icon library, the old is good enough.

the trick explain at a1k Forum is not usefull for AGA Users,because AGA can not show 256 colors in acceptable speed.

the screenshot is done on 1024*768, no AGA system can show in acceptable speed.

[matthey]

If the US dollar was at the level that Bill Clinton left it at before George Bush and a Republican House and Senate were in power everything would look alot rosier right now
We've cut the taxes, now where's the trickle down?

First we were BushWacked by a bad capitalist spendocrat and now we have a good socialist spendocrat Abomanation whose change from Bush is to spend more. It's always blindly throw more money at a problem in this country. No accountability. I say, let the tax payers keep the fruits of their labor rather than take it away from them to waste. Money gives freedom and taxes take away freedom. Many will throw their money away but there is enough that wisely use their money. Socialism takes away every ones money and makes them equally poor. There is only false security in the idea of a socialist utopia. Name one rich highly socialist country that is not very fiscally responsible. Capitalism did not fail. It made us the wealthiest country in the world. It is wasteful spending, ignorance, arrogance (including Aboma's on economics) and immorality that is destroying this country. We had the right recipe for wealth but we abandoned it. We need to return but it seems that I'm one of only a handful of true conservatives and patriots left in this once great country. Ron Paul, Peter Schiff and I see it and get it but we are unelectable conspiracy theorists that the masses will not recognize until it's too late. Ron Paul was right about voting against the war in Iraq, trying to stop Barney Franks putting people in houses they couldn't afford, the flaws and lack of transparency in the Fed, value of commodities, etc. So we give Barney Franks more power and take away power from Ron Paul who has nailed it. The truth doesn't matter in this country any more. The people are too ignorant and immoral. Barney Franks for president! Let's go ahead and put this country out of it's misery. At least we won't be an anchor to the rest of the world economy then. My money is out of the U.S. dollar and prepared for hyper-inflation. Is yours? My wealth has increased in these economic times and not just in dollar terms. Has yours? I will continue to be able to afford new Amiga's in other currencies than the U.S. dollar. Are you prepared?

[Vulture]

@bernd

Would you at least consider to support 15-bit screens? For BVision users like me, it saves memory and speed as I'm on 1600x900 desktop. Furthermore, about the 8-bit mode, I do open screens of 1920x1080x8bit (wordworth, dopus4 etc) that need no more than 256 colors, but look plain ugly without afaos, while the rest of the system looks great. Please give it some thought before rulling it out.

Also, are you aware that AFA-OS has some sort of conflict with Powerwindows iconify function? Placing windows out of sight works fine, but the iconify function (which iconifies ANY window, whether it has an iconify gadget or not) won't work if afaos is loaded. Would it be possible to check it out plz?