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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2016, 02:28:16 AM »
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Your right but with a good accell card you can run 128MB on the card and still have 8 meg, maybe a hair more on the bus. An 8 MB Graphics card maybe doable.

That's something I would like to see!  I have 128MB on my accelerator, certainly don't need the extra mem in the ZII address space (except for a handful of older programs that still look for it there).  Would be interesting to see an 8MB graphics card, fully saturate the Zorro II bus, what the heck.  It's not like we really need that space.  But then you're still going to hit the limitations of the slow speed of the bus, and with newer accelerators like the Vampire going to include built-in graphics anyway, it's unlikely we'll ever see a truly "maxed out" Zorro II video card.  ;)
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Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2016, 02:41:58 AM »
@Oldsmobile_Mike,

Still would be nice to have a killer fast FPGA acell on a ZII machine with a PCI slot off the edge for a good Graphics card, 128MB maybe. And leave the ZII for other old stuff. Dream mode off...

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Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2016, 04:03:41 AM »
By the way, how much graphics mem and what is the bus speed of the vampire?
 

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Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2016, 04:20:46 AM »
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"...where this guys bureau apparently is quite often, but hestitate to bother..."

Well, your English is still better than my Polish, but wtf does a bureau have to do with this sentence?


"I'm passing, on bike, in front of a house, where this guy's bureau apparently is, quite often, but (I) hestitate to bother (him), especially (since) I have nothing to contribute, except good wishes."

Better?
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Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2016, 04:26:26 AM »
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where this guy's bureau apparently is

I assume by "bureau" he means "where this guy's company is" or "where he works", or something along those lines.  But over here a bureau is one of these:




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Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2016, 10:42:10 AM »
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I assume by "bureau" he means "where this guy's company is" or "where he works", or something along those lines.  But over here a bureau is one of these::lol:


my english suxx too but...

bureau
1. an administrative unit of government (synonyms: agency, office)
2. furniture with drawers for keeping clothes
 

Offline kolla

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2016, 10:58:36 AM »
Mike, since you are in DC, I suggest you visit the FBI headquarters and ask them what a bureau is.
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Offline Rob

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2016, 12:52:32 PM »
Since this card has an FPGA it could be re-purposed as something else and the HDMI connector could be treated as a breakout for whatever connectivity you could fit to it's 19 pins.
 

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Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2016, 01:46:31 PM »
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"I'm passing, on bike, in front of a house, where this guy's bureau apparently is, quite often, but (I) hestitate to bother (him), especially (since) I have nothing to contribute, except good wishes."

Better?


A little.
You are close enough to ride your bike past his home or office, but you hesitate to stop as you do not want to bother him.

Sorry for my confusion.
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Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2016, 06:25:43 PM »
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...  But then you're still going to hit the limitations of the slow speed of the bus, and with newer accelerators like the Vampire going to include built-in graphics anyway, it's unlikely we'll ever see a truly "maxed out" Zorro II video card.  ;)

just curious but what about Zorro III speeds/limitations?
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Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2016, 06:31:39 PM »
Ultimately you are cpu bound no matter what bus you use with a 68K.
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Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2016, 07:37:45 PM »
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just curious but what about Zorro III speeds/limitations?

Still like 9349057398547x faster than Zorro II, haha.  ;)

*I know that's not an approximate number.  I'm sure some smart-ass will come along and say exactly what the performance difference is, but I can't remember and can't be bothered to google it right now, lol.  :lol:
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Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2016, 08:06:17 PM »
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Ultimately you are cpu bound no matter what bus you use with a 68K.

but a 68000 varies from a 68060
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Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2016, 09:18:07 PM »
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Still like 9349057398547x faster than Zorro II, haha.  ;)

*I know that's not an approximate number.  I'm sure some smart-ass will come along and say exactly what the performance difference is, but I can't remember and can't be bothered to google it right now, lol.  :lol:


I found this discussion from 2007.  It's worth reading the whole thread.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=28865
 

Offline zipper

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2016, 09:30:47 PM »
RTG cards vary in ZorroIII speed between about 10 MB/s to 18 MB/s, CV64 being the fastest afaik. My PIV did probably 12 - 14 MB/s.
 

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Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 18, 2016, 09:37:14 PM »
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but a 68000 varies from a 68060


Yes, the 68060 is the beast of the family.
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