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Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3 - testing!
« on: March 14, 2019, 11:00:32 PM »
It start without problems, but I can't test more. My OS seems to be mess. I have KS 3.1.4 and original OS3.9 install. I ques I need to actually install 3.1.4

With this configuration it doesn't display any images, even with those Netsurf versions wich used to work.



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A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3 - testing!
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2019, 12:51:23 AM »
I ran upodateto314 script and I still have a problems. No pictures are displayded with Netsurf and it and when I trying to surf any web page it makes everything bog slow.

I have 3.1.4 kickstart and O3.9 BB1&2 wich is updated with 3.1.4 components.



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A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3 - testing!
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2019, 10:41:55 PM »
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Does the old version work with 3.1.4?
By which I mean the latest build here: https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/amigaos3/

No, it doesn't work downloaded NetSurf-gcc-4567.lha and same symptoms, version wich I had was from late 2018.

I have 1mb kickstart, wich has 3.1.4 components, including intuititon library.  But also a peterk's icon.library and few filesystems. Nothing really excotiq.

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A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3 - testing!
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2019, 08:51:10 PM »
Thank you Chris for you effort to get Netsurf work. It has been really close to be usefull with REAL amigas, no other browser wich displays pages that that well is anywhere near of that.



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A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3 - testing!
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2019, 12:04:55 PM »
Chris, sorry OT, but is there a known problem with os3.1.4 components?
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A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
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Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3 - testing!
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2019, 08:23:03 PM »
What could cause slow down in my system? OS was 100% same, but I started to use custom made 3.1.4 kickstart, it has a new intuition library inside it. Workbench library?
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A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3 - testing!
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2019, 08:59:00 PM »
Quote from: TribbleSmasher on March 31, 2019, 08:50:38 PM
Why would you beta test something with a custom OS?

Every Amiga uses custom OS, tons of patches, programs and hacks running. My OS and kickstart is not that much "custom" than they used to be. It has a fresh OS3.1.4 install over OS3.9. Kickstart is just like official, except it has a intition library inside of it and pfs, sfs, cf.device, fat95, etc inside of it.


With excat same OS it worked, but with os3.1.4 components inside of kickstart slows it down.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2019, 09:01:04 PM by utri007 »
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A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3 - testing!
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2019, 10:57:58 PM »
It seems to have problems with KS3.1.4 I have kickstart with all the 3.1.4 modules inside of it, including intuition.libary.

It loads start page, but doesnt't open any page crash or "cannot fetch". No matter is it http or https

Task..: 0x018EB620  NetSurf
Error.: 0x8000000B  "DEADEND"  by: System: no alert occured
Cause.: Line 1111 Emulator error

PC: $018CF8C2       

A7   : $00000000       
A7+ 4: $00000000       
A7+ 8: $00000000       
A7+12: $00000000       
A7+16: $00000000       
A7+20: $00000000       

D0: $00000003  D1: $FFFFFF62  D2: $00000003  D3: $00000000
D4: $00000000  D5: $00000000  D6: $00000000  D7: $00000001
A0: $0190A0D8  A1: $0190A09C  A2: $0190A0D8  A3: $0190A0DC
A4: $00000000  A5: $028971DC  A6: $018CFB14  A7: $0190A088

018cf8c2 : *f998                       dc.w $f998 ;illegal opcode
018cf8c4 :  0000 0008                  ori.b #$8,d0
018cf8c8 :  0063 2182                  ori.w #$2182,-(a3)
018cf8cc :  0000 00cf                  ori.b #-$31,d0
018cf8d0 :  ffff                       dc.w $ffff ;illegal opcode
018cf8d2 :  fffe                       dc.w $fffe ;illegal opcode
018cf8d4 :  0106                       btst d0,d6
018cf8d6 :  0694 0040 32cd             addi.l #$4032cd,(a4)
018cf8dc :  018c 8608                  movep.w d0,-$79f8(a4)
018cf8e0 :  01b5 b780                  bclr d0,(za5,a3.w*8) ;illegal opcode
018cf8e4 :  5346                       subq.w #$1,d6
018cf8e6 :  5302                       subq.b #$1,d2


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A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3 - testing!
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2019, 12:05:14 PM »
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That is not related to 3.1.4 at all. It is just an indication that the code requires an FPU, and none is present in your system.

But I do have FPU and it is working just fine.  Whichamiga command shows FPU/MMU just fine after setpatch has ran.

I'm trying to upload pictures, but i says "failed security check" why? Pictures would have had information about CPU before and after setpatch.

Quake requires FPU and it works.
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A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3 - testing!
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2019, 04:22:17 PM »
Tried to redirect out put to ram with tool type file. Changet it to file=ram:netsurf.log didn't:t work
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A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3 - testing!
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2019, 07:06:11 PM »
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I'm not sure what you tried. But if you tried MuForce, I strongly suggest to read the manual. It will tell you, in particular, that MuForce doesn't output to a log file, but to the serial port, 9600-8N1. If you want it elsewhere, Sashimi is your friend.

Sorry my lazyness. Here three logs from serial output. Netsurf3.txt has in end "famous" crash on exit.



WORD READ from FFFFFF7C (INST)                 PC: FFFFFF7C
USP : 018B6388 SR: 0010  (U0)(-)(-)  TCB: 01886448
Data: 00000001 01F87ADC 00030000 00000001 00000014 00000000 00000000 00000000
Addr: 01886448 00000000 01F8FF4C 01886448 00000000 00000000 00000000 001FFFF0
Stck: 01F87A5C 0000537C 00000000 01F87D4C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 01886448 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Name: "NetSurf" 


Exception !!   00000002     TCB: 01886448     CTX: 011C0FE8     SSP: 001FFFF0
USP : 018B6388 SR: 0010  (U0)(-)(-)  TCB: 01886448
Data: 00000001 01F87ADC 00030000 00000001 00000014 00000000 00000000 00000000
Addr: 01886448 00000000 01F8FF4C 01886448 00000000 00000000 00000000 001FFFF0
Stck: 01F87A5C 0000537C 00000000 01F87D4C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 01886448 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Name: "NetSurf" 


WORD READ from FFFFFF7C (INST)                 PC: FFFFFF7C
USP : 018B6388 SR: 0010  (U0)(-)(-)  TCB: 01886448
Data: 00000001 01F87ADC 00030000 00000001 00000014 00000000 00000000 00000000
Addr: 01886448 00000000 01F8FF4C 01886448 00000000 00000000 00000000 001FFFF0
Stck: 01F87A5C 0000537C 00000000 01F87D4C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 01886448 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Name: "NetSurf" 


Exception !!   00000002     TCB: 01886448     CTX: 011C0FE8     SSP: 001FFFF0
USP : 018B6388 SR: 0010  (U0)(-)(-)  TCB: 01886448
Data: 00000001 01F87ADC 00030000 00000001 00000014 00000000 00000000 00000000
Addr: 01886448 00000000 01F8FF4C 01886448 00000000 00000000 00000000 001FFFF0
Stck: 01F87A5C 0000537C 00000000 01F87D4C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 01886448 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Name: "NetSurf" 


WORD READ from FFFFFF7C (INST)                 PC: FFFFFF7C
USP : 018B6388 SR: 0010  (U0)(-)(-)  TCB: 01886448
Data: 00000001 01F87ADC 00030000 00000001 00000014 00000000 00000000 00000000
Addr: 01886448 00000000 01F8FF4C 01886448 00000000 00000000 00000000 001FFFF0
Stck: 01F87A5C 0000537C 00000000 01F87D4C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 01886448 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Name: "NetSurf" 


Exception !!   00000002     TCB: 01886448     CTX: 011C0FE8     SSP: 001FFFF0
USP : 018B6388 SR: 0010  (U0)(-)(-)  TCB: 01886448
Data: 00000001 01F87ADC 00030000 00000001 00000014 00000000 00000000 00000000
Addr: 01886448 00000000 01F8FF4C 01886448 00000000 00000000 00000000 001FFFF0
Stck: 01F87A5C 0000537C 00000000 01F87D4C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 01886448 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Name: "NetSurf" 
« Last Edit: April 10, 2019, 07:08:10 PM by utri007 »
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A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3 - testing!
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2019, 05:31:54 PM »
DisPC and StackLines are now enabled. I tried to look segtracker from aminet, but seems that aminet has now problems?


BYTE WRITE to  FF040029        data=FF         PC: 014B2E2A
USP : 018C5A70 SR: 0019  (U0)(-)(-)  TCB: 018971C0
Data: 0000FFFF 00200000 00000400 00000008 00000000 00000004 00000001 00000004
Addr: 00E90000 00005708 014B332C 010BE0D4 014FE200 014B332C FF03FF03 001FFFF4
Stck: 00000400 00000008 00000000 00000004 014B1E38 01478E78 014A6904 00010000
Stck: 00000002 FFFFFFFF 00000000 0000000E 0000002C 00000000 01478A54 018C5B50
Stck: 014DA7F8 010BE0A8 01000C34 01478E78 010B0004 0008014B 339C8E78 010B0005
Stck: 0008014B 010BE0D4 014FE200 00000000 0138DE68 0138DE64 00000003 01000001
014b2e0a :  0000 0015                  ori.b #$15,d0
014b2e0e :  117c 0000 0015             move.b #$0,$15(a0)
014b2e14 :  117c 0000 0015             move.b #$0,$15(a0)
014b2e1a :  51c8 ffce                  dbra d0,$14b2dea
014b2e1e :  117c 0003 0001             move.b #$3,$1(a0)
014b2e24 :  4841                       swap.l d1
014b2e26 :  1141 0009                  move.b d1,$9(a0)
014b2e2a : *532e 0126                  subq.b #$1,$126(a6)
014b2e2e :  6c08                       bge.s $14b2e38
014b2e30 :  33fc c000 00df f09a        move.w #-$4000,$dff09a
014b2e38 :  4cdf 443c                  movem.l (a7)+,d2-d5/a2/a6
014b2e3c :  4e75                       rts
014b2e3e :  0c00 0003                  cmpi.b #$3,d0
014b2e42 :  643a                       bcc.s $14b2e7e
014b2e44 :  2050                       movea.l (a0),a0
014b2e46 :  2278 0004                  movea.l $4.w,a1
Name: "NetSurf" 


WORD READ from FFFFFF7C (INST)                 PC: FFFFFF7C
USP : 018C7100 SR: 0010  (U0)(-)(-)  TCB: 018971C0
Data: 00000001 01F8F88C 00030000 00000001 00000014 00000000 00000000 00000000
Addr: 018971C0 00000000 01F97CFC 018971C0 00000000 00000000 00000000 001FFFF0
Stck: 01F8F80C 0000537C 00000000 01F8FAFC 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 018971C0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Name: "NetSurf" 


Exception !!   00000002     TCB: 018971C0     CTX: 011BB870     SSP: 001FFFF0
USP : 018C7100 SR: 0010  (U0)(-)(-)  TCB: 018971C0
Data: 00000001 01F8F88C 00030000 00000001 00000014 00000000 00000000 00000000
Addr: 018971C0 00000000 01F97CFC 018971C0 00000000 00000000 00000000 001FFFF0
Stck: 01F8F80C 0000537C 00000000 01F8FAFC 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 018971C0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Name: "NetSurf" 


WORD READ from FFFFFF7C (INST)                 PC: FFFFFF7C
USP : 018C7100 SR: 0010  (U0)(-)(-)  TCB: 018971C0
Data: 00000001 01F8F88C 00030000 00000001 00000014 00000000 00000000 00000000
Addr: 018971C0 00000000 01F97CFC 018971C0 00000000 00000000 00000000 001FFFF0
Stck: 01F8F80C 0000537C 00000000 01F8FAFC 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 018971C0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Name: "NetSurf" 


Exception !!   00000002     TCB: 018971C0     CTX: 011BB870     SSP: 001FFFF0
USP : 018C7100 SR: 0010  (U0)(-)(-)  TCB: 018971C0
Data: 00000001 01F8F88C 00030000 00000001 00000014 00000000 00000000 00000000
Addr: 018971C0 00000000 01F97CFC 018971C0 00000000 00000000 00000000 001FFFF0
Stck: 01F8F80C 0000537C 00000000 01F8FAFC 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 018971C0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Name: "NetSurf" 
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ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3 - testing!
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2019, 10:58:38 PM »
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Please also run SegTracker upfront - this will also give segments and segment offsets which are most helpful for debugging. Thank you

Aminet is back online, so here is a segtracker list. You wanted me to list how kickstart modules are in memory? Or what switch you mean with "upfront"?

Kickstart is mapped to fast ram with your mufastrom
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A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3 - testing!
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2019, 12:01:13 AM »
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That's not a switch. It means you run segtracker before sashimi.

segtracker
sashimi on console &

Dam synonyms :D But OK here it is MuForce log with dispc and stacklines switches enabled AND segtracker ran before it.

It ends Netsurf crash.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2019, 01:17:52 AM by utri007 »
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A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3 - testing!
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2019, 09:11:31 PM »
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Try adding Mungwall to the mix and see if it triggers something more? (Sorry if I missed out on you already doing that.)

Noob like me would not do something like that without somenone telling.

Short, I just run segtracker, mungwall from CLI and then start murforce?
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A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 
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