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Offline kamelito

Re: Amiga OS Conform Software already runs on AROS 68k
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2019, 07:51:05 PM »
Isn’t it the purpose of AROS?
 

Offline Minuous

Re: Amiga OS Conform Software already runs on AROS 68k
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2019, 04:33:13 AM »
It still won't run most OS3.5/3.9 software, so still not useful for any practical purpose IMO.
 

Offline kolla

Re: Amiga OS Conform Software already runs on AROS 68k
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2019, 06:16:14 AM »
It runs OS3.3/3.9 software fine once you install the Reaction classes and resource.library.

What software btw? Most of it is just irrelevant prefs programs for the OS itself, I cannot think of any software title that requires OS3.5+, the very few titles that rely on Reaction (AWeb) also work with ClassAct.
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A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
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A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
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Offline Minuous

Re: Amiga OS Conform Software already runs on AROS 68k
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2019, 06:22:15 AM »
It defeats the point of an AmigaOS replacement if you still need to add components from AmigaOS. Why not just use AmigaOS then?

Software like MCE, Report+, AmiArcadia, etc. requires ReAction rather than ClassAct as they use some additional features that are not present in ClassAct.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2019, 06:27:57 AM by Minuous »
 

Offline kolla

Re: Amiga OS Conform Software already runs on AROS 68k
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2019, 06:29:16 AM »
Because it upsets you, that alone makes it worth while - IMO.
AROS has software AmigaOS doesn’t have, for example a maintained Poseidon USB stack.

Care to name those software titles that really require 3.5+?
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A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

Offline kolla

Re: Amiga OS Conform Software already runs on AROS 68k
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2019, 06:32:03 AM »
Software like MCE, Report+, AmiArcadia, etc. requires ReAction rather than ClassAct as they use some additional features that are not present in ClassAct.
Huge popular must have titles, not.
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A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

Offline Minuous

Re: Amiga OS Conform Software already runs on AROS 68k
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2019, 06:39:24 AM »
Because it upsets you, that alone makes it worth while - IMO.

Trolling again eh obviously...why am I not surprised...

It's disappointing that AROS is lacking, but hardly upsetting. I just use the real thing instead.
 

Offline kolla

Re: Amiga OS Conform Software already runs on AROS 68k
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2019, 07:03:36 AM »
Because it upsets you, that alone makes it worth while - IMO.

Trolling again eh obviously...why am I not surprised...

It takes one to know one, eh?
You keep jumping on just about any AROS thread just to say that it doesn't work for you and that you're not at all interested in it.
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A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

Offline Minuous

Re: Amiga OS Conform Software already runs on AROS 68k
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2019, 07:31:36 AM »
I just don't like the way they conveniently omit that the version of AmigaOS they replicate is 25 years obsolete and modern "Amiga OS Conform Software" is actually not supported, it's misleading.
 

Offline kolla

Re: Amiga OS Conform Software already runs on AROS 68k
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2019, 08:53:21 AM »
I just don't like the way they conveniently omit that the version of AmigaOS they replicate is 25 years obsolete and modern "Amiga OS Conform Software" is actually not supported, it's misleading.
Noone wrote "supported", the word used is "runs", which is true. And "modern" Amiga software? Let us not kid ourselves, nothing "modern" going on here. What AROS does is replicate the APIs, not the the software that the OS shipped with - all APIs are in place for also Reaction to run, it just happens that the owners of Reaction do not wish to see it on AROS - which is totally fine, because Reaction has _very little_ to offer over what is already present. And if you _REALLY_ desperately need Reaction on AROS, you can have it - you have shown up through the years that you have no problem ignoring copyrights and distribution licenses, so you should have no trouble using unpacking a reaction.lha archive on your AROS/68k system partition.

Anyways - AROS moves on with or without you, you can mix and match with "real" AmigaOS all you like.
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A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

Offline Minuous

Re: Amiga OS Conform Software already runs on AROS 68k
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2019, 09:51:41 AM »
What AROS does is replicate the APIs, not the the software that the OS shipped with - all APIs are in place for also Reaction to run

ReAction itself is part of the API. By your line of reasoning AROS (or indeed AmigaOS itself) is just really exec.library, all APIs are in place for the rest of the system components to run.

And it is a wider issue than just ReAction: there are other features in OS3.9 and last time I checked AROS implemented few of them.

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Anyways - AROS moves on with or without you, you can mix and match with "real" AmigaOS all you like.
AmigaOS moved on 20 years ago, it is AROS that still hasn't.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2019, 11:58:43 AM by Minuous »
 

Offline kolla

Re: Amiga OS Conform Software already runs on AROS 68k
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2019, 12:19:30 PM »
AmigaOS moved on 20 years ago, it is AROS that still hasn't.

*slow clap*
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A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Amiga OS Conform Software already runs on AROS 68k
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2019, 12:27:19 PM »
amiarcadia works with ClassAct and not needs ReAction

I tested it

Aweb works with ClassAct too

I also tested it

and the rest of your list is hardly relevant for most users
 

Offline kolla

Re: Amiga OS Conform Software already runs on AROS 68k
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2019, 12:46:33 PM »
Maybe someone should put up a web page with "unofficial boingbags for AROS/68k, only for owners of AmigaOS 3.9"
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A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS