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Re: Bounty for better Radeon Mediator drivers
« on: September 16, 2013, 08:45:46 PM »
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Sometimes (many times) is like os4 is against the real amiga.

Well, I have been around for a lot of time, and I don`t have that impression. Its true Hyperion ceased any 68k development once moved to OS4 development, but they ceased to develop PPC games too - seems even OS4 is way too big task for such a small company.

Its easy to blame it when you look it like that, but to me AmigaOS 4 is as much Amiga as any AmigaOS 3.x is.

In terms of hardware, Classics have proven to be extremely limited at the end of 90s, so I always look forward for new generation of more open standard boards.
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Re: Bounty for better Radeon Mediator drivers
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2013, 08:49:52 PM »
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they want to sell their licenses and avoid everything that would support users on other platforms. I can remember reading a thread where someone asked one of the Friedens to compile something for another platform (I think it was Warp3D for 68k) and the answer was I could but I do not, buy AmigaOS when you want to use it (i do not remember the exact phrases). That shows the attitude...

As Wawa said only chance is AROS 68k. BTW the same is partly the case on MorphOS team too. Both "closed-source" and "commercial" camps want to defend their advantages and are not interested in sharing code in areas where they think they are better than the others. It is their right of course but it would have been better in a common interest to work together. But that is not the case (and will propably never be).

Of course it is different outside the "core" and even in the teams there are exceptions that are very open (like Fab from MorphOS-Team) but I think every technology that is seen as advantage like MUI4, P96, Cybergraphics 5 and so that is copyrighted will not opened or at least cross-compiled.

Now I understand it better. Its because new developed software points that have pushed MOS and OS4 forward will never get 68k compiled, and you are advised to move PPC, which you dislike.

Well, since those components are only things that do make a difference and move ahead, its understandable why they will not do it.

To be honest, would also like its one great (open source or not) OS, be it 68k,PPC or x86 (or all tree) but that is unlikely to happen.
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Re: Bounty for better Radeon Mediator drivers
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2013, 06:02:27 PM »
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this is not the subject, whether or whatever the limits are these are concerns os amiga/aros68k users, standard boards are available for other aros users rather than what you choose to use. no need to lecture us who know better.

It wasn`t intended to be a lecture, but personal sentiment and attitude.

PowerPC route was chosen because 68k seemed dead. But this were times when everything was hardware tied. Today, with AROS 68k, FPGA machines and UAE almost universally avail, 68k exists on both software and hardware level, even in better position then ever. 68k code we can run on AmigaOS 4 and MorphOS too ... and its most present "Amiga"

Back on topic, if it would help guys using the Classics, would donate to such bounty.
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