Amiga.org

Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: jorkany on September 27, 2012, 03:16:20 PM

Title: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: jorkany on September 27, 2012, 03:16:20 PM
Some interesting information linking Bill McEwen to RIM has been found:

Original posting: http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi...a/227961.shtml


For those afraid to visit moobunny:

pic.1 : http://i.imgur.com/ciyln.png?1

pic.2 : http://i.imgur.com/vM0L5.jpg?1

From Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzxQ2YUjk50
4:41 and 6:16
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: odin on September 27, 2012, 05:18:45 PM
That picture isn't Bill McEwen.
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: Darrin on September 27, 2012, 05:33:49 PM
Quote from: odin;709553
That picture isn't Bill McEwen.


I'm not really Kate Bush.
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: runequester on September 27, 2012, 05:59:10 PM
When trolling, it's generally considered more effective to troll things people will actually defend.
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: commodorejohn on September 27, 2012, 06:45:53 PM
Like a bad penny...he just keeps turning up.
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: CritAnime on September 27, 2012, 06:58:54 PM
How is he tied to RIM exactly? It shows, possibly, his details in some guys contact list.
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: Darrin on September 27, 2012, 07:01:43 PM
Quote from: CritAnime;709560
How is he tied to RIM exactly? It shows, possibly, his details in some guys contact list.


My thoughts exactly.  It is like looking at my list of contacts on my smartphone and assuming they all work in the Petroleum Industry.  :)
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: runequester on September 27, 2012, 07:08:46 PM
Its showing a guy with the same name, and a different face, on a random phone.
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: persia on September 27, 2012, 07:10:55 PM
And Arnold Schwartzeneger!
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: jorkany on September 27, 2012, 07:24:16 PM
Quote from: runequester;709562
Its showing a guy with the same name, and a different face, on a random phone.

It's showing a guy that is associated with Amiga with the name Bill McEwen at a recent Blackberry conference. Hey, maybe it *is* another Bill McEwen who just happens to like Amiga stuff, and maybe AInc. suddenly started selling Blackberry apps coincidentally. I mean, the real McBill would never misrepresent himself, right? Like claim to have the money to name a hockey stadium or something like that? It's a different picture so it MUST be a completely different guy!

Things were already pretty bad at RIM, I've a feeling they just took another turn for the worse...
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on September 27, 2012, 07:52:26 PM
Ha!  I was just watching that video and saw that too, was coming here to comment on it but I see I've already been beaten, LOL.  ;-)
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: Darrin on September 27, 2012, 07:53:20 PM
Quote from: jorkany;709565
It's showing a guy that is associated with Amiga with the name Bill McEwen at a recent Blackberry conference. Hey, maybe it *is* another Bill McEwen who just happens to like Amiga stuff, and maybe AInc. suddenly started selling Blackberry apps coincidentally. I mean, the real McBill would never misrepresent himself, right? Like claim to have the money to name a hockey stadium or something like that? It's a different picture so it MUST be a completely different guy!

Things were already pretty bad at RIM, I've a feeling they just took another turn for the worse...


When we see a new product called the "Commodore USA Amiga Blackberry 1000X" available for $5,999 (please allow 90 days shipping from Florida) then we'll know for sure.
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: partycentralpartygirl on September 27, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
So it's confirmed that RIM will be bankrupt within a year?
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: Methuselas on September 27, 2012, 10:22:00 PM
You know, I am *EXTREMELY* disappointed in this thread. The title implies something *COMPLETELY* different. ;)


Merely making an observation here......
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: zylesea on September 27, 2012, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: Darrin;709555
I'm not really Kate Bush.


You're not..? Sigh!
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: Matt_H on September 27, 2012, 11:35:34 PM
Ooo, so it looks like the Amiga curse could take down RIM as well. Interesting. The collateral damage from our platform gets more and more exciting!
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: haywirepc on September 27, 2012, 11:52:04 PM
Maybe the new blackberry is running on amiga anywhere.

:biglaugh:
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: partycentralpartygirl on September 28, 2012, 12:59:27 AM
Quote from: haywirepc;709595
Maybe the new blackberry is running on amiga anywhere.

:biglaugh:


No it runs CommodoreOS. They are also changing the name from BlackBerry to BoingBerry.
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: Darrin on September 28, 2012, 01:40:17 AM
From the BBC today:

Quote
Research In Motion has posted a smaller-than-expected quarterly loss, sending its shares up nearly 18% in after-hours trading.

The maker of the Blackberry also boosted its cash pile, as it nears the launch of its next-generation devices.

RIM reported a net loss of $235m (£145m) for the second quarter, ending 1 September, compared with a profit of $329m for the period last year.

Excluding one-time restructuring items, the loss was $142m.

RIM increased its cash to about $2.3bn from $2.2bn.

Being able to dip into a cash reserve could be key to a successful launch of RIM's line of revamped smartphones that will run on its new Blackberry 10, or BB10, operating system.

The struggling company has staked its future on BB10.

Once a smartphone pioneer, RIM's fortunes have faded as rivals such as Apple and Samsung have taken market share.

Thorsten Heins, chief executive of the Ontario-based firm, said: "Despite the significant changes we are implementing across the organization, our second quarter results demonstrate that RIM is progressing on its financial and operational commitments during this major transition."

Technology analyst Rob Enderle, of the Enderle Group, told the BBC: "RIM's turnaround will have to wait until the new platform comes out.

"Its strength is the business-centric audience - and what's hurting them most is they still don't have Blackberry 10 to offer them.

"But given the business market is not that happy with Android over security, and Apple's prevalance means it is also becoming a target - there is still a reasonable chance RIM can still come back.

"Of course, Microsoft is targeting the same audience with Windows Phone 8, but there is an opportunity for a challenger in 2013."

RIM said it shipped 7.4 million Blackberry smartphones in the quarter and 130,000 BlackBerry PlayBook tablets.


Things that amaze me:

Making a $235m quarterly loss rather than a profit of $329m can increase your share price by 18%!

They increased their cash to about $2.3bn from $2.2bn.  I guess Bill lent them some money.

On the positive side, that massive cash reserve could really help them launch a new product, but is it way too late?  The company I'm consulting for are replacing their Blackberry phones this year with Apple phones (despite the security fears).
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: danwood on September 28, 2012, 01:46:24 AM
Quote from: partycentralpartygirl;709582
So it's confirmed that RIM will be bankrupt within a year?



http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/27/rims-fiscal-q2-2013-results-net-loss-of-235-million-on-2-9-billion-in-revenue-7-4-million-blackberrys-shipped/
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: runequester on September 28, 2012, 01:56:05 AM
Once you cut the production and innovation, there's not much left in the company.

It really is too bad. I had a blackberry a long time ago, and thought it was a pretty solid device at the time.
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: TheBilgeRat on September 28, 2012, 02:04:31 AM
So....Bill has a RIM job?

Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: Methuselas on September 28, 2012, 05:25:08 AM
Quote from: TheBilgeRat;709615
So....Bill has a RIM job?




LULZ! I took all of my willpower not to go there. :sealed:
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: Duce on September 28, 2012, 05:50:50 AM
RIM still has a strong presence and massive amount of respect in the enterprise fields.  Not to mention the countless patents.

That being said, they never saw the bomb coming - they thought their enterprise endeavors were clinched, that corporations would never stray from Blackberry.  They did.  Even the most dedicated BB using corporations are now going the route the public sector has gone, and that's getting away from BB mail and going to a "run what you brung" model for phones with simple exchange servers.

I would expect them in the near future to make Blackberry Enterprise Server for platforms other than their own handsets, aka iOS and Android.  BBE is a tremendous package, and one that might keep them afloat in the long run, but I think it's too little too late in the handset space for them.

Even up here in Canada, the cell providers have a hard time giving away Blackberry devices and they have lost massive ground to Apple and especially the cheaper Android phones.  That must sting RIM a lot, since they are a Canadian company.

In fact it's sort of a running gag that if you see a guy in a coffee shop carrying a Blackberry that you sort of mutter to yourself "Poor bastard, his company still makes him use that thing".

That aside, they are circling the drain, but the money they have will keep them alive for some time.  I honestly wouldn't be surprised if someone bought them out, and there's been no lack of rumors regarding that, from Amazon to Samsung.
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: zylesea on September 28, 2012, 08:55:50 AM
Quote from: Darrin;709612
From the BBC today:



Things that amaze me:

Making a $235m quarterly loss rather than a profit of $329m can increase your share price by 18%!

They increased their cash to about $2.3bn from $2.2bn.  I guess Bill lent them some money.

On the positive side, that massive cash reserve could really help them launch a new product, but is it way too late?  The company I'm consulting for are replacing their Blackberry phones this year with Apple phones (despite the security fears).

I could imagine that RIM will get some indirect help by Apple. The iphone5 just isn't _that_ great. It's good, but ppl start to realize that Apple is boiling with water, too. My expectation is that the Apple hype will slowly decrease now to a rather normal and healthy level. Competitors will get a bit more attention again. I doubt tat RIM products will ever ride a hype wave like Apple, but they have teh chance to regain a better marketshare than today.
They could also put their building quality and social standards more into public reception. I heard they are (among other sites) producing in Germany - no Foxconn suicide slaves. If they produce in the U.S. too, they could ride the "buy American" wave. If the PR department is doing a good job, they will find arguments convincing customers
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: partycentralpartygirl on September 29, 2012, 01:04:52 AM
Quote from: zylesea;709648
I could imagine that RIM will get some indirect help by Apple. The iphone5 just isn't _that_ great. It's good, but ppl start to realize that Apple is boiling with water, too. My expectation is that the Apple hype will slowly decrease now to a rather normal and healthy level. Competitors will get a bit more attention again. I doubt tat RIM products will ever ride a hype wave like Apple, but they have teh chance to regain a better marketshare than today.
They could also put their building quality and social standards more into public reception. I heard they are (among other sites) producing in Germany - no Foxconn suicide slaves. If they produce in the U.S. too, they could ride the "buy American" wave. If the PR department is doing a good job, they will find arguments convincing customers



I had a blackberry for awhile it was the best built phone I ever had. Durable as a clawhammer.

However this video will make them get all the market share they will ever need.

http://youtu.be/WlsahuZ_4oM
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: Matt_H on September 29, 2012, 02:29:43 AM
Quote from: partycentralpartygirl;709723
I had a blackberry for awhile it was the best built phone I ever had. Durable as a clawhammer.

However this video will make them get all the market share they will ever need.

http://youtu.be/WlsahuZ_4oM


Ow, ow, ow, my ears are bleeding. It even challenges the crown for Horrible Promotional Videos that Microsoft won with this thing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGFogwcx-E).
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: Kesa on September 29, 2012, 05:07:32 AM
Quote from: Matt_H;709730
Horrible Promotional Videos that Microsoft won with this thing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGFogwcx-E).

Are you kidding? This is fantastic! It's so bad it's actually good :)
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: A1260 on September 29, 2012, 01:17:44 PM
Quote from: Duce;709635
RIM still has a strong presence and massive amount of respect in the enterprise fields.  Not to mention the countless patents.

That being said, they never saw the bomb coming - they thought their enterprise endeavors were clinched, that corporations would never stray from Blackberry.  They did.  Even the most dedicated BB using corporations are now going the route the public sector has gone, and that's getting away from BB mail and going to a "run what you brung" model for phones with simple exchange servers.

I would expect them in the near future to make Blackberry Enterprise Server for platforms other than their own handsets, aka iOS and Android.  BBE is a tremendous package, and one that might keep them afloat in the long run, but I think it's too little too late in the handset space for them.

Even up here in Canada, the cell providers have a hard time giving away Blackberry devices and they have lost massive ground to Apple and especially the cheaper Android phones.  That must sting RIM a lot, since they are a Canadian company.

In fact it's sort of a running gag that if you see a guy in a coffee shop carrying a Blackberry that you sort of mutter to yourself "Poor bastard, his company still makes him use that thing".

That aside, they are circling the drain, but the money they have will keep them alive for some time.  I honestly wouldn't be surprised if someone bought them out, and there's been no lack of rumors regarding that, from Amazon to Samsung.

bill mcewens amiga inc will be on them like vultures and buy the crumbs... im sure of it... bill mcewens wet dream have been getting amigade on a proper mobile phone for a decade now...

perfect partner in crime will be commodore usa... they got the money(30mill in disney advert money) and the commodore name to booth...

it will be a massive happening... bigger than the hockey stadium thing. watch out for the AMIGA BERRYDORE in the future!
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: damiraga on September 29, 2012, 01:25:46 PM
Few weeks ago Amiga Inc. released several Amiga games on Blackberry App World. Maybe that is the connection!?
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: Duce on September 29, 2012, 01:33:31 PM
Why do people seem to believe McBill is involved in this at all?  Do you REALLY think that Amiga Snowman Maker was something on a resume that would catch the eye of a major player like RIM?  Jesus, that's like saying Microsoft just hired Barry of C-USA to replace Gates.

McBill is a copyright and trademark squatter, never done anything technical in his life.

A.org sometimes just blows my mind with all the stupid stories.  Moobunny, I expect that, but you guys fall for it hook, line and sinker.  You find a matching name with a completely different pic and 2 +2 = potato and here we go again.  What would McBill have to offer RIM?  Truck driver?

Did you also see Elvis and Bigfoot on the same city bus today?  lol

Say that out loud, folks.  McBill buying the scraps of Blackberry....

With what, buttons and a smile?  You *DO* realize RIM netted nearly 3 Billion dollars this past quarter, right?  I don't think an IOU will cover that, no matter how charming McBill may be.
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: Duce on September 29, 2012, 01:36:45 PM
Quote from: damiraga;709759
Few weeks ago Amiga Inc. released several Amiga games on Blackberry App World. Maybe that is the connection!?

And the 5 people in the world who have a mutual interest of Amiga's and Blackberry's that wanted a snowman maker or a hideously wrapped emu Amiga game even heard about it :)

You will also note that these BB App World games are solely for the Playbook.  You know, the most expensive paperweight around.  The local telco was selling the high end ones for $150 and couldn't get rid of them.  I've got a buddy, a real huge fan of Blackberry devices.  Has owned every BB phone, pager, every RIM device ever made.  If you offered him $10,000 and a free non RIM smartphone, he'd laugh in your face.  He's go down with the ship, but I found his comments about the Playbook hysterical.  he bought 2 of them when they launched, one for him and one for his wife.  About a month later he finally cracked and told me it'd been in a drawer, unused for 2 weeks and he said "The Playbook is to RIM what Ping and the Newton were to Apple, should have saved my money".  :)
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: A1260 on September 29, 2012, 01:48:31 PM
Quote from: Duce;709760
Why do people seem to believe McBill is involved in this at all?  Do you REALLY think that Amiga Snowman Maker was something on a resume that would catch the eye of a major player like RIM?  Jesus, that's like saying Microsoft just hired Barry of C-USA to replace Gates.

McBill is a copyright and trademark squatter, never done anything technical in his life.

A.org sometimes just blows my mind with all the stupid stories.  Moobunny, I expect that, but you guys fall for it hook, line and sinker.  You find a matching name with a completely different pic and 2 +2 = potato and here we go again.  What would McBill have to offer RIM?  Truck driver?

Did you also see Elvis and Bigfoot on the same city bus today?  lol

Say that out loud, folks.  McBill buying the scraps of Blackberry....

With what, buttons and a smile?  You *DO* realize RIM netted nearly 3 Billion dollars this past quarter, right?  I don't think an IOU will cover that, no matter how charming McBill may be.

all jokes aside... watch "Incredible Opportunities and Nice Money" video by bill mcewens... and you will know if there is an opportunity to take blackberry, bill mcewen will do so.

video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig6XRl4Ns0E
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: runequester on September 29, 2012, 04:39:09 PM
A big part of RIM's trouble is that companies went from "we'll buy you a blackberry" to "you buy your own smart phone". Simple way to reduce budget by 200 bucks per employee.

With that, people went for the phones they use elsewhere.
Title: Re: Bill McEwen of AInc. tied to RIM?
Post by: Kremlar on September 29, 2012, 05:08:47 PM
Quote

A.org sometimes just blows my mind with all the stupid stories. Moobunny, I expect that, but you guys fall for it hook, line and sinker. You find a matching name with a completely different pic and 2 +2 = potato and here we go again. What would McBill have to offer RIM? Truck driver?


Do you seriously think that the name Bill McEwen with the company name Amiga being shown on the video days after Amiga releases a line of games for the Blackberry is a coincidence?

Really?

Not saying its anything major, but clearly it's not a coincidence.