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Offline TribbleSmasher

Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #44 from previous page: July 28, 2020, 10:08:26 PM »
Use a native Amiga mouse or one of those USB-Amiga adapters.
 

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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #45 on: July 29, 2020, 09:43:50 AM »
Use a native Amiga mouse or one of those USB-Amiga adapters.

I already have and use them.
A4000T, 604e@400&060@66, 128MB+16MB+Zorram256, CVisionPPC, VLabMotion, Toccata, XSurf100&RapidRoad, Prisma Megamix

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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #46 on: July 29, 2020, 09:56:28 AM »
Then your question does not make sense as you would not need the RapidRoads USB? :o
 

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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #47 on: July 29, 2020, 10:05:10 AM »
Then your question does not make sense as you would not need the RapidRoads USB? :o

You need rapidroad usb for many things including the ability use a usb mouse. Actuall your reply does not make sense assuming that I do not have an amiga mouse or assuming that I do not want to use a usb mouse with rapidroad or I do not use rapidroad for other usb devices. If you know about a setting that reduces cpu usage, tell me. If you don't, just pass on.  ???
« Last Edit: July 29, 2020, 10:06:12 AM by Ancalimon »
A4000T, 604e@400&060@66, 128MB+16MB+Zorram256, CVisionPPC, VLabMotion, Toccata, XSurf100&RapidRoad, Prisma Megamix

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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #48 on: July 29, 2020, 10:06:19 AM »
My Logitech G700 Mouse is using half of the 66Mhz 060 while being moved. Is there a way to lower this?

Yeah - do more, other stuff, because if all you do is moving around your mouse cursor, then that’s what the CPU will spend time on :)

Btw - how do you know your CPU is using 50% on “mouse activities”, have you installed Executive by any chance? If so, then even more so - use your computer more if you want to see lower percentage used for “mouse activities”.
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A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #49 on: July 29, 2020, 10:23:37 AM »
My Logitech G700 Mouse is using half of the 66Mhz 060 while being moved. Is there a way to lower this?

Yeah - do more, other stuff, because if all you do is moving around your mouse cursor, then that’s what the CPU will spend time on :)

Btw - how do you know your CPU is using 50% on “mouse activities”, have you installed Executive by any chance? If so, then even more so - use your computer more if you want to see lower percentage used for “mouse activities”.

I have executive installed since it was released. I used idle check cpu usage.

On cybergraphx screens, if screen refresh rate is not 50hz or 60hz (which are not easy on the eye) depending on whether your Amiga is running in pal or NTSC mode, using real Amiga mice, mouse pointer does not move smoothly. The only way to have smoothish mouse movement is to have a 100hz screenmode with pal or 120hz with NTSC timings and then you have sort of flickery double mouse that at least moves smoothly. To my surprise, usb mouse makes the pointer move smooth regardless of refresh rate.  But I found that moving windows with mcps smooth moving windows option struggles when using a USB mouse with RapidRoad so I decided to check cpu usage and found this. Real Amiga mice use only 1 percent of cpu.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2020, 10:26:38 AM by Ancalimon »
A4000T, 604e@400&060@66, 128MB+16MB+Zorram256, CVisionPPC, VLabMotion, Toccata, XSurf100&RapidRoad, Prisma Megamix

A1200, Blizzard060@50, 256MB, Blizzard IV SCSI, FastATA mk4
 

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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #50 on: July 29, 2020, 10:24:22 AM »
The obvious thing to do if you want to remove the “problem” with mouse pointer taking CPU time, is to not use a PIO (programmed I/O) driven controller, like RapidRoad, where the CPU do all the work in reading from the devices, but instead use a controller that use DMA (direct memory access), like for example the Deneb controller (DMA with OS3, but only PIO with OS4) or - simples of all - the original Amiga mouse port.
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A3000/060CSPPC+CVPPC/128MB + 256MB BigRAM/Deneb USB
A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #51 on: July 29, 2020, 10:29:51 AM »
Ah, well, then all you need to do is to RTFM - to expect people here to know exactly what it is in your mashed up hack&patch system that makes mouse pointer score high numbers in Executive’s AmigaOS scheduler replacement ... hahaha, escuse me, I am off to di some shopping. Good luck :)
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A3000/060CSPPC+CVPPC/128MB + 256MB BigRAM/Deneb USB
A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

Offline Hiddenevil

Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #52 on: August 01, 2020, 07:04:10 PM »
Would a rapid road fit inside an Amiga 500?
 

Offline Oldsmobile_MikeTopic starter

Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #53 on: August 01, 2020, 07:14:51 PM »
Would a rapid road fit inside an Amiga 500?

LOL.  You can make "anything" fit, with enough work.  But it's not designed for it.   You'd need to start by adding more RAM, a faster processor, and find some way of adding a clockport connector.  ;D
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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #54 on: August 01, 2020, 07:30:30 PM »
One could add 2x 90° zorro-adapters to turn the expansion port around, then fit an xsurf card and plug the rapidroad onto the last.
 

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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #55 on: August 01, 2020, 08:00:49 PM »
 

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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #56 on: August 02, 2020, 01:50:54 AM »
Anything is possible!   ;D

In case ya’ll are wondering what you’re looking at;

Buddha Flash Phoenix Edition
http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/buddhaphoenix

True IDE
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/TrueIDE

Z500
http://www.robthenerd.com/projects/z500

Subway USB module
https://bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=598

An Ethernet to USB Adapter

A DataStick Pro USB Stick

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A2000HD: 2MB Chip, 128MB Fast, P5:Blizz 2060@50MHz, PCD-50B/4GBCF, XSurf100, RapidRoad, IndiECS, Matze RTG, MiniMegi, CD-RW, SunRize AD516, WB3.9
 
A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

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Offline Hiddenevil

Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #57 on: August 03, 2020, 05:31:24 PM »
Is the Z500 still available?
 

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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #58 on: August 03, 2020, 09:04:34 PM »
Hi there Hiddenevil....

Daedalus,  AKA Rob the Nerd, AKA Rob Cranley makes the Z-500. He makes them in small batches.
You can request  a board in this thread over at EAB.

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=87848&page=14

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A500: 2MB Chip, 8MB Fast, IndiECS, MiniMegi, IDE4ZorroII on Z-500, KS1.3/KS3.1, WB3.1&BWB
 
A2000HD: 2MB Chip, 128MB Fast, P5:Blizz 2060@50MHz, PCD-50B/4GBCF, XSurf100, RapidRoad, IndiECS, Matze RTG, MiniMegi, CD-RW, SunRize AD516, WB3.9
 
A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

Surfing The Web With AMIGA Is Fun Again!