Look, I'll agree with the premise that some of the CUSA haters overstate the case. But it's not as though there aren't grounds for grievance. The whole ideological issue of putting PC clone parts in a reproduction case and selling it as the same thing (oh, sorry, the same thingx) or a successor to/revival of is a touchy subject to begin with,
And I'm one of those people. I have stated repeatedly, that if they don't produce something Amiga-like then don't call it Amiga. But here's the difference between myself and some others: it bothers me. It doesn't anger me, it only bothers me, therefore, I'm not going to blind myself with hatred over their actions.
And why does it only bother me instead of anger me? Because it's a damned computer we're talking about. CUSA isn't killing babies. They're not raping virgins. And they didn't poop on the Pope. They're doing nothing more than borrowing another computer's name.
I'll say it again: I don't like it. I wish they'd pick other names, like the Commodore Colt or the Commodore CBM or something. But the anger directed towards them by many is simply ridiculous and out of proportion to the act.
and the fact that the company's response, as expressed by both its key members, is "you're stupid for disagreeing, also I'm going to call you a loser for even caring, now kiss my feet, peons" didn't help things one bit.
Which I chalked up to simple human failings and then let go... especially now that they appear to be willing to win some community support with their so-called challenge. I'll reserve damning them for their "challenge" WHEN they actually do (or don't) produce something.
And add to that the generally lackluster design and ridiculous pricing of the actual product, and a whole host of claims by the company that turned out to either be exaggerated or wholly false but have been consistently ignored in discussion with company representatives...this might be "human failings" in a dictionary-definition sense, but unless you have some plan for replacing Barry and his underlings with robots, human failings = failings in a company made up of humans. It's not just some little handful of foibles, it raises some pretty serious questions about the company as a whole.
What? Like they're the first? Name a company, any company, and I'll bet you GOOD money they've done just as many (maybe even more) stupid things. Here's some reading for you:
The 11 Biggest PR Disasters Of 2011. Many businesses have screwed up in the past and are still thriving despite their mistakes, mostly because they took the time to learn from them. CUSA can too.
And, once again, CUSA appears to be doing just that with their so-called "Challenge." And the fact that they puts some constraints on that challenge (6 months) suggests to me that they may be learning from their mistakes. They are, one, engaging the community like many of us have already suggested they should, and, two, with that constraint, recognizing that not everything the Community wants is doable.
It's their bet two win or lose and if they botch it, then the haters have every right to laugh. But the haters want to hate, forget reason, proportion and restraint... it will get in the way of hating.
No, because he's being (diplomatically speaking) a smarmy, obnoxious twit about it.
And so is everyone arguing with him. Which is why the moderates should do their job and moderate. Their is no "innocent" party here and the mods need to get it under control. Period.
That is, admittedly, a subjective judgement, but subjective judgement is exactly what mods are for, otherwise you could run a forum based on a set of sophisticated word filters. Lots of forums allow moderators to hand out cooldown temp-bans when a member is being annoying but not warranting a more serious mod action.
Yes. And their are still two sides causing trouble here. And both sides need to cool it. And the moderators need to moderate.
@ J-Golden:
Dammy is not. Most of the comments on the post CUSA put up about this offer were neutral (read wait and see) to mildly positive. Instead of trying to help rally support to this new proposition, Dammy instead attacks and demeans people. He refused the fact that some of the negatively minded people were getting warmed over by this new move and continued to call other members out for past posts. All this does is cause unneeded contention and hurt CUSA's cause rather than help.
Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. I'm reminded of the parent with two children: one constantly aggravating the other until the second child hits the first. The first then calls out "Mom! He's hurting me!" Most parents would punish both children. The first for being a turd and the second for reacting to the turd.
Two sides are involved here, not just one. And both need to be dealt with.
