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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2011, 02:24:33 PM »
I got an 800mhz G4 powerMac for free from work that someone was going to throw out!.
I currently have the MorphOS 2.7 demo on it. I'm still contemplating registering it. Not sure yet.

Free -vs- $1000+ for a hobby OS was a no brainer for me.
 

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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2011, 02:25:54 PM »
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But now I'm worried that the integrated CRT's display is looking fuzzy and there are capacitors on the logicboard that look like they may be bulging.

How good are you with repairs? I have a good spare CRT I'm looking to dump. Cap kits are cheap on eBay.
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2011, 02:26:14 PM »
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What HW are MorphOS supposed to run on, in the future, when applications requires more speed/memory etc. than available on the old Mac hardware?

 
I think if you look at the last of the line PPC Macs there are still pretty tasty for anything Amiga related.  even close to the the specs of the X1000
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2011, 02:28:20 PM »
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I think if you look at the last of the line PPC Macs there are still pretty tasty for anything Amiga related. even close to the the specs of the X1000

I think the high end G5's will outperform the X1000 in many (most?) benchmarks.
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2011, 02:30:00 PM »
they have lots of new hardware to port to if they wish:
- Sam440
- Sam460
&  X1000 when it arrives
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2011, 02:30:32 PM »
Which is what I was getting at.   We still have a path to and possibly above the lastest and greatest for such a fraction of the cost its silly.
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2011, 02:31:30 PM »
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they have lots of new hardware to port to if they wish:
- Sam440
- Sam460
& X1000 when it arrives

 
Pretty sure this has been disccussed a lot and there is no need/want to port to this hardware.   Too expensive and in every case faster Mac hardware still to be done.
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2011, 02:34:46 PM »
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all this hardware is old and used without any sort of warranty..

Who cares if it is dirt cheap? One fails, you buy another. On the other hand, this hardware is of high quality and risk of failure is low.


Lets see what happens when the PA6T has to be replaced.
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2011, 02:37:28 PM »
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why there isn't a company like Acube but for morph os instead of amiga os?


Because designing and building new desktop HW for a dead architecture (PPC) in the quantities of 100-200 units is a bad idea, especially if it's worse off than what's already available performance and spec wise, and at 10 times (or more) the cost?

The PPC Macs that MorphOS already supports (or might support in a relatively close future) represents how far the PPC *ever went* on the consumer desktop market. That's the edge, and the end of line. And now when the PPC is gradually fading into history, nothing new will beat those Macs still here.

Would be a far better idea for MorphOS to begin the migration process to ARM, IMHO! ;)
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2011, 02:39:05 PM »
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I think if you look at the last of the line PPC Macs there are still pretty tasty for anything Amiga related.  even close to the the specs of the X1000

Yes but in the future - the hardware will not be capable of doing task, which then is considered as ordinary tasks. So someday MorphOS has to get on faster hardware - there is now way around this.
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2011, 02:41:11 PM »
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Pretty sure this has been disccussed a lot and there is no need/want to port to this hardware.   Too expensive and in every case faster Mac hardware still to be done.


ahh yes but for how long JJ ? old macs will only start drying up and the next Sam boards and X2000 etc will only get quicker...besides for everyday computing who gives a crap about the fastest 5+ Ghz machine really
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2011, 02:48:34 PM »
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BTW, I do not bad mouth Acube. They seem to be a real company with real product and real warranty, something that cannot be said of some previous "Amiga" hardware vendors. I simply have no use or desire for their product.


Ditto, ACube is one of the few "Amiga" supporting companies I can honestly recommend to others as they are dependable and trust worthy.  I was considering buying a 460 for a project, but that project got preempted.
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2011, 02:55:24 PM »
As none of the "OS4" boards can be bought without a OS4 licence and considering the history between Hyperion and the Morphos developers why would they consider port to those boards and increasing sales of the persons company who has done everything he can to destroy Morphos's reputation?

Personally I wouldn't give Hyperion the steam of my p*ss let alone any more money.

That and I picked up a 1.2gig G4 tower for free that was been used as a door stop at a client office :D

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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2011, 03:14:32 PM »
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ahh yes but for how long JJ ? old macs will only start drying up and the next Sam boards and X2000 etc will only get quicker...besides for everyday computing who gives a crap about the fastest 5+ Ghz machine really


That makes an awful lot of assumptions about a lot of things, for instance that the huge costs in developing even "mid range" performance hardware with an exotic PPC such as the one in the PA6T for starters. It assumes also that the X1000/460 ever sells enough to recoup those costs or that PPCs that are in any way useful to the desktop are still available, consider that the PA6T being used now is basically warehouse stock that will never be replaced.
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #43 on: January 28, 2011, 03:17:39 PM »
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How good are you with repairs? I have a good spare CRT I'm looking to dump. Cap kits are cheap on eBay.

Who want's to use  computer with a CRT display, for daily use?
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #44 from previous page: January 28, 2011, 03:32:42 PM »
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The MacMini is an awseome piece of kit, small , silent , well designed.  I was sceptical at first.  But people who refuse you Mac hardware are blined by the OS.  Mac Os sucks balls, well I really don't like it anyway, but your only using the hardware.  despite what you think of apple, and i won't buy apple products, they do generally make good looking, robust hardware.

Well, and on all those old great PwrPC macs there is no longer any support for MacOS.  Macs usually are very well made.  I'm glad they're porting over to the G5s, as you can pick them up with dual 1.6-2.0Ghz macpros for around 300 bucks.  That is a crapton of computing for most everything (plus MorphOS).