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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2011, 01:40:07 PM »
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Last night i was wondering why there is no new hardware for morph os, os4 has the sam440, the new460ex and when available the new x-1000 (plus the old amiga one and micro).. yes i know there are the mac but all this hardware is old and used without any sort of warranty..


Folks in butterfly country usually are able to do some basic economic calculation. If there was sustainable demand there would be a product. Seems like currently there is no sustainable demand.

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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2011, 01:42:00 PM »
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Folks in butterfly country usually are able to do some basic economic calculation. If there was sustainable demand there would be a product. Seems like currently there is no sustainable demand.


ok i understood, so the problem is the user base..
 

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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2011, 01:45:27 PM »
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(I must be buying the wrong type of iMacs...)


I think all iMacs are wrong if you want to run MorphOS.

You need an eMac. http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=emac+1.25&_sacat=0&_odkw=emac+1.33&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

Even those are cheap over in the UK.
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2011, 01:46:37 PM »
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ok i understood, so the problem is the user base..

The user base might not see it as such a problem, I'm quite happy with my MorphOS hardware, try to wrap your head around that. What hardware are you using?
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2011, 01:47:12 PM »
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ok i understood, so the problem is the user base..


Actually, there is no "problem" that I can see.  Feel free to keep inventing them, though.
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2011, 01:50:40 PM »
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I think all iMacs are wrong if you want to run MorphOS.

You need an eMac. http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=emac+1.25&_sacat=0&_odkw=emac+1.33&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

Even those are cheap over in the UK.


Crap... those are cheap... :eek:

I've just spent well over £400 on ebay this week buying some spare VIC20s & C64s, I could have bought a bucket load of them Macs for that...

Methinks I'm gonna have to build a bigger house... :)
 

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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2011, 01:50:57 PM »
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Actually, there is no "problem" that I can see.  Feel free to keep inventing them, though.


no i am not inventing nothing, i am considering the actual amiga situation.. if there is no real problem why no new hardware for morph os.. why a user have to look for used and old hardware?.. why there isn't a company like Acube but for morph os instead of amiga os?
 

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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2011, 01:58:39 PM »
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user have to look for used and old hardware?

That said hardware is better and cheaper and with better parts/repair support than anything available as new. Hardly a problem I'd say.

Of course there are some that just have to have new HW. You could always buy EFIKA, but IMO you're better off with a Mac: Faster CPU, more memory.
 

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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2011, 02:03:01 PM »
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no i am not inventing nothing, i am considering the actual amiga situation.. if there is no real problem why no new hardware for morph os.. why a user have to look for used and old hardware?.. why there isn't a company like Acube but for morph os instead of amiga os?

There was one years ago, the boards I bought from them in 2003 and 2005 are still working today, that does not make me any less happy about the used apple hardware I've picked up since then. It's just a more practical approach now. That your limited imagination is unable to deal with that is just something you will have to live with.
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2011, 02:03:06 PM »
My MacMini silent upgrade cost me £150 off ebay.  Took me a while to get one that didnt go for over £200.  It wasn't acutally advertised as the silent upgrade, sellers mistake.   Was well chuffed when i got it.
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2011, 02:05:16 PM »
lets be honest  Hyperion sre determined to keep it on new expensive hardware because of deals they have made, its not a piracy issue, its a greed issue at the expense of the AOS4 faithful.  They could have switched to other Hardware ages ago.
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2011, 02:18:07 PM »
I have a MorphOS 2.7 license for my eMac, a computer that cost me $100 last year off Craig's List. I probably could have found an eMac cheaper or even for free had I been more patient, but this one was in the neighborhood. Then I paid for the MorphOS license, so that must be factored into the system cost just as it is with the Sam prices.

So the old Mac was relatively inexpensive and MorphOS performs very well on this hardware. But now I'm worried that the integrated CRT's display is looking fuzzy and there are capacitors on the logicboard that look like they may be bulging. I have had capacitor problems with my Amiga 1200 and Amiga 4000 and also my Mac SE/30, and I have spent big bucks for repairs because of sentimental attachments to those computers. The 1200 got another motherboard from AmigaKit. The 4000 got another motherboard that also turned out to have problems, and that one was sent to France for repair.

Hardware doesn't last forever. But I am certainly not sentimental about this eMac, and I will not repair it if it fails. It's main value to me is the MorphOS license, so hopefully there is a mechanism for transfering that license to replacement hardware if the eMac gives up the ghost.
 

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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2011, 02:22:57 PM »
There is,  I beleive, and I know a lot of people are vocal on this, you have to send the broken hardware to the dev team, and then they will transfer the licence for you to new hardware.  I am hoping in the future theey can think of a better way of doing this.   There must be a wake of revoking a liscence through the net and then sending out a new one
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2011, 02:23:24 PM »
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Hardware doesn't last forever. But I am certainly not sentimental about this eMac, and I will not repair it if it fails. It's main value to me is the MorphOS license, so hopefully there is a mechanism for transfering that license to replacement hardware if the eMac gives up the ghost.

You can contact the MorphOS Team for the transfer if the HW dies.
 

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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2011, 02:24:24 PM »
What HW are MorphOS supposed to run on, in the future, when applications requires more speed/memory etc. than available on the old Mac hardware?
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 28, 2011, 02:24:33 PM »
I got an 800mhz G4 powerMac for free from work that someone was going to throw out!.
I currently have the MorphOS 2.7 demo on it. I'm still contemplating registering it. Not sure yet.

Free -vs- $1000+ for a hobby OS was a no brainer for me.