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Re: Any need for a MiniMig 3.0?
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2009, 01:45:04 AM »
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xyzzy wrote:
Gutting old A1200s? Sacrilege!  :-o  :-P

How about an FPGA softcore 680x0 trapdoor accelerator combo card instead?

with... SDRAM, USB, Ethernet, UDMA IDE, Radeon gfx etc... ?


Half of them are dead or towered anyway .. making an A1200 shaped motherboard means no having to design a case :-)

In your wish list your forgot to add "Cell CPU core", Transputer and TARDIS functionality .. come on got to make work the guy for his money you know! ;-)

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Re: Any need for a MiniMig 3.0?
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2009, 02:40:31 AM »
Would a Minimig 3.0 have AGA?  If so, there's definitely room for it.  If you could also give it PCI and PCI Express slots, then there's more than room for it - Personally, I'd be falling down and worshipping it ...

Even better - make it emulate a PPC and run OS4 and MorphOS.

Yeah - I know I'm dreaming, but I like dreaming ...
 

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Re: Any need for a MiniMig 3.0?
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2009, 02:46:09 AM »
Small, make it small and handheld that I can carry on the plane or on the train.
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Re: Any need for a MiniMig 3.0?
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2009, 03:02:38 AM »
An expanded Mini-Mig that has enough memory and cpu power to run os 3.9 and able to run larger apps.

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Re: Any need for a MiniMig 3.0?
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2009, 03:30:11 AM »
I wish a MiniMig 3.0 with:
- AAA    :-D  (not hahaha or ahahah)
- all memory compatible (DDR - DDR2 - DDR3 - etc)
- support Intel Core     :-o
- integrate Catweasel    :-P
- CPU slot like A3000/A4000    :crazy:
- Wifi / Blutooth / WiMAX / WiBro / GSM / UMTS / HSPDA / LTE / RFID :idea:
- integrate TBC - Genlock
- tuner DVB-T / DVB-H
- connector for AMIGA external disk drive
- 2x FireWire / 1x RS232 / 8x USB / CrossFire

Finally it's an ASUS Motherboard :-D

EDIT: I forgot the HDMI connectors - SVHS in/out - SCSI - MIDI...
-A3K(T)040@35MHz/78MB/KS3.1/OS3.9/Buster11/PICASSO II/GVP IO/A2088XT/DENEB/HDD18GB
-A3K(D)030@25MHz/134MB RAM/KS3.1/OS3.9/Buster11/RETINA Z2/OKTAGON 2008/VLAB YC/MIDI/DKB3128/HDD18GB
-A2K/ROM 1.3-3.1/2MBCHIP/8MB/A2091/OKTAGON 2008/A2058/TANDEM IDE/FlickerFixer-Scandoubler/Genlock
-A1200/KS3.1/2MB+9MB/CF2GB A1200[/
 

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Re: Any need for a MiniMig 3.0?
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2009, 04:50:42 AM »
Hello,

I have a new board in the work.
What I can tell you is :
- Bigger FPGA
- More memory
- The PCB fits in my hand
- It is cheap

Stay tuned!

Frederic
 

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Re: Any need for a MiniMig 3.0?
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2009, 05:22:56 AM »
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VingtTrois wrote:
I wish a MiniMig 3.0 with:
- AAA    :-D  (not hahaha or ahahah)
- all memory compatible (DDR - DDR2 - DDR3 - etc)
- support Intel Core     :-o
- integrate Catweasel    :-P
- CPU slot like A3000/A4000    :crazy:
- Wifi / Blutooth / WiMAX / WiBro / GSM / UMTS / HSPDA / LTE / RFID :idea:
- integrate TBC - Genlock
- tuner DVB-T / DVB-H
- connector for AMIGA external disk drive
- 2x FireWire / 1x RS232 / 8x USB / CrossFire

Finally it's an ASUS Motherboard :-D


Just buy an Asus Motherboard and run Winuae  :roll:
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Re: Any need for a MiniMig 3.0?
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2009, 08:00:23 AM »
There were some replies here...

And most of the do have one common thing: a lot of added features. As I see, the FPGAArcade and NatAmi would cover most of these at the end (and with expansion slots, the missing ones could be added later). No need for me to get in to that with a third project that ends up almost the same as the FPGAArcade (better to buy one of these boards and save my time for other projects). My intention with the MiniMig 2.0 (and up) was to keep the compability with the Dennis core (the 2.0 runs the core from his webpage unmodified), just add to the surroundings what was missing on the MiniMig 1.1. All these new designs (including my Mini MiniMig) requires modification to the FPGA core in some way (and with the ARM, new loader firmware too). The board had to be hand solderable too, which rules out BGAs (that is required for larger FPGAs).

Anyway, I might concentrate on the Mini MiniMig instead. I need anyway to redesign it as some parts can't be bought anymore. And there is an interest of a compact/portable MiniMig. The ARM could easily be integrated into it and doubling the SRAM isn't that hard. With the RGB I/O from the FPGA exposed, it should be possible to hook it up to a RGB-type TFT...
 

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Re: Any need for a MiniMig 3.0?
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2009, 08:13:03 AM »
@Illuwatar

"The board had to be hand solderable too, which rules out BGAs (that is required for larger FPGAs)."

Is hand soldering adding to the cost compared to mass produced? I'd be happy with something that was a little more affordable.
 

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Re: Any need for a MiniMig 3.0?
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2009, 01:06:27 PM »
That is the only way for me to build the prototypes as I'm lacking the ability to solder non-legged components (no hot-air, no ovens...). I think that mass production of the boards would be cheaper too with this types of parts (if someone would do that).
 

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Re: Any need for a MiniMig 3.0?
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2009, 02:19:46 PM »
Fpgaarcade already found a solution to that problem by letting the PCB manufacturer solder on the BGA chip. And solder the rest by himself.
 

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Re: Any need for a MiniMig 3.0?
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2009, 02:26:34 PM »
And of course, you then need to add the cost of the board getting circuit tested, as there is no way to see if all the balls have flowed properly :)
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Re: Any need for a MiniMig 3.0?
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2009, 03:16:51 PM »
Is this program of any help...
http://www.cadsoftusa.com/
 

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Re: Any need for a MiniMig 3.0?
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2009, 04:24:13 PM »
Hm... in all this ideas we should not let the Amiga chipset drift away, because THAT is the main reason in reconstructing an Amiga system.
Any new Amiga (using PPC, OS3.9 and even intel CPU??) dont need the Amiga chipset feature very much! If we bulid an AAA, PPC, PCI, RadeonGFX based "Minimig", we could just take an ordinary PC mainboard or even SAM with adaptive Bios chips.

Minimig is suppose to be an Amiga. AGA and 0x0 support is also an Amiga in this way of thinking. Everything beyond that would only create some already existing new-age rebuild that dont have any need for the real custom chips.
 

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Re: Any need for a MiniMig 3.0?
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2009, 06:05:33 PM »
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Hm... in all this ideas we should not let the Amiga chipset drift away, because THAT is the main reason in reconstructing an Amiga system.
Any new Amiga (using PPC, OS3.9 and even intel CPU??) dont need the Amiga chipset feature very much! If we bulid an AAA, PPC, PCI, RadeonGFX based "Minimig", we could just take an ordinary PC mainboard or even SAM with adaptive Bios chips.

Minimig is suppose to be an Amiga. AGA and 0x0 support is also an Amiga in this way of thinking. Everything beyond that would only create some already existing new-age rebuild that dont have any need for the real custom chips.


I couldn't agree more.

EDIT: oh, and miniminimig (micromig? picomig?!? ;-)) with more RAM and ARM controller is the way to go. IMHO.
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Re: Any need for a MiniMig 3.0?
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 06, 2009, 07:37:25 PM »
The useful suggestions seems to be:
 * Zorro-II bus (AJCopland,freqmax).
 * PCI slot (billt).
 * PCMCIA slot (Sparky).
 * SDRAM to the full 16 MB (AJCopland). (Any leftover could be used for RAM disc)
 * SODIMM slot (billt).
 * Yaqube's ARM (AJCopland).
 * Secondary FPGA to allow TG68 development (AJCopland).
 * 4-bit path to SDcard to speedup transfers (freqmax).
 * Floppy drive port (Sparky).

Guess Zorro/PCMCIA expansion slot. 16 MB SDRAM. Secondary XC3S500e FPGA. And 4-bit SDcard path would be useful and still not rocket science. It's very much about priorities.