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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2008, 11:07:57 AM »
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Well - I'm buying one too!

It's probably the singlemost important piece of new hardware to emerge for the low/midrange Amiga setup in eons.  That makes it pretty special to me.  At around forty quid all-in it's an absolute steal. :-D

Sure beats paying $950 for one dunnit. :-D
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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2008, 11:37:37 AM »
I've ordered one.  At a production rate of 3 a month it might be a while before I see it though.  :)
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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2008, 11:41:33 AM »
I will placing an order for one. At least my A500/A2000 can now use my 19" CRT! (I hate LCD  :-D, and have plenty of CRT on hand).
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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2008, 11:42:31 AM »
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Darrin wrote:
I've ordered one.  At a production rate of 3 a month it might be a while before I see it though.  :)


True, But beats selling your arm and leg for one on eBay.....  :-)
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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2008, 11:49:27 AM »
I am confused.

Does it or does it not support 24 bit? :-?
 

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2008, 11:50:34 AM »
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At a production rate of 3 a month


Slight correction.... "I make about three every two weeks". 5-6 a month maybe? I wonder if he sells the kits.

Plaz


 

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2008, 11:59:32 AM »
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Does it or does it not support 24 bit?

The scan doubler chip used is 16 bit, it will work on an A1200 or 4000 but you will only get 16bit quality, not 24bit.
TBH I dont think it will make much difference but its up to you.
 

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2008, 12:06:34 PM »
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TheDaddy wrote:
I am confused.

Does it or does it not support 24 bit? :-?

WTF? What part of "Absolutely NOT" gets you confused? :-)
 

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2008, 12:07:18 PM »
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Does it or does it not support 24 bit?

The scan doubler chip used is 16 bit, it will work on an A1200 or 4000 but you will only get 16bit quality, not 24bit.
TBH I dont think it will make much difference but its up to you.


For $65 who cares! Heck, when is the last time anyone got a scan doubler for $65? Once the rush dies down I'll be getting one myself.
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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2008, 12:14:28 PM »
>>WTF? What part of "Absolutely NOT" gets you confused?

The NOT bit.
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Offline Plaz

Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2008, 12:18:11 PM »
Check this posting for the closest thing I can find to a technical spec on this unit.

Tech Specs by "TIffers"


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mike- wrote:
Didn't it turn out that the doubler supported 24-bit?

alexh wrote:
Absolutely NOT.


Is it an absolute? Maybe it will display, just not look great? More input needed for me.

Plaz
 

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2008, 12:29:49 PM »
Yes it is an absolute.

The unit is based on the reference design for the Averlogic scandoubler chipset found in a lot of low cost LCDTV's. The AL250A and the AL875 which is not a 24-bit system.

This has been discussed time and time again.

With AGA games you will get some colour/detail loss.

Plus it is an external scandoubler which means there is Digtal->Analog->Digital->Analog conversion which never offers the top quality!

The prototypes had unsheilded ribbon cables which made things even worse.

But as has been said for $65 you cant complain ;-)
 

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2008, 01:14:32 PM »
@alexh

Thanks, details I can chew on.

Plaz
 

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2008, 01:40:08 PM »
Flicker fixer?
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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2008, 01:48:25 PM »
"The output of the AL250 used in this unit is compatible with
all modern LCD monitors. It even has internal DAC and SRAM
to fix interlace flicker."

 

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #29 from previous page: March 29, 2008, 01:54:27 PM »
Impressive. I may have to buy one to the replace the unit I am using with my 128 project. It cost me more and it does not fix flicker in interlace modes. I also don't think interlace modes will display on LCDs with my current unit.
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