I think AEON, as a company, is trying to get stuff sold. They are following a dead-end track to the very end. Once they get there I don't think there is a plan B to save their efforts. I think Trevor Dickinson is making an honorable effort to try to push the plan A solution but there really isn't much of a market for PPC desktop computers as a whole nowadays.
I think that the only hobby operating systems worth mentioning are AROS and Haiku. AROS, because it is open-source, supports a number of processor architectures, and is largely self-supporting. Also Haiku because it is multithreaded and pervasively object-oriented (not to mention largely open-source). Both of those are fairly quick compared to modern commercial OSs on modern hardware.
We (AOS4, MorphOS users) ARE the PPC Market.
Its good you will support 68k AROS. I like you having informed choice.
But I do feel AmigaOS 4 has reached quite few milestones, and needs to be supported. Specially when A-EON got involved. Trevor is quite decent and open fellow and pushes things forward. He is beside Acube only one.
If all negative criticism is banned, censored, and so forth, then it would lead one to believe that everyone thinks this hardware is fantastic, or OS 4 is fantastic, etc. etc. etc. leaving us in a very unfair and unbalanced situation. Border line propaganda at that.
I say unban the other post, get on with reality.
Agreed, but I do remember myself being banned for C-USA criticism on few boards ... and it did not lead to everyone believed hardware and software are great and well priced.
Its not that I am for banning, but for balance.
I do agree its demanding to have AmigaOS expensive and dedicated machine, but so was always. Same would be with FPGA 68k or MorphOS, leave AROS aside as able to run on 68k and PPC too.
In my experience it is expensive, but somehow cheaper or same as with high end in Commodore era - having in mind fact that I was much poorer at the time. And decided to go for X1000 instead of high end Mac, just because of there is some path of progress for AOS4 and I want to add my 2 cents (well, way more) to it.
@olaf
You sound like you are doing marketing for a oldtimer or a piece of art (f.e. painting) in a auction. But we are talking not about collectors items but about computers that are today normal for everyone. That is what the X1000 has to compare with and there it is completely crazy overprized. And when I hear that the successor (propably) is not (much) cheaper and that another planned model even more expensive then it looks completely insane. It would not work in the 68k community, not in AROS nor MorphOS camp and for sure not in the "outside world" but only in AmigaOS camp where a couple of hundred user seem to buy everything at any price when it is running AmigaOS. The AmigaOS users are melk cows but they seem to be happy with it. I personal had hoped that Trevor would invest his money to go in the opposite direction (cheaper options to get a bigger community) but it seems not. In the AROS world people are working on cheap options like ARM-based devices so I hope this will succeed.
Well X1000 can compete with existing market its on - I find it valuable and expandable enough to pay quite huge difference from similarly speced SAM 460. Yes, AmigaOne wasn`t cheap original, SAMs were neither for their perforance levels, but neither were Pegs2 or PPC Macs when they were new. It wasn`t such an extreme as X1000, but yet Trevor explained PA Semi alone costs 500-900$ now, and that they haven`t pushed the price up but rendered their profit margin down (no matter how strange that looks) to have X1000 sold some more.
In the end it will be limited series First Contact that was able to push AmigaOS 4 beyond. Kind of what top level G5 Macs are today.
ARM AROS sounds nice, but yet it will be 2nd or 3rd or 4th os on ARM based devices, just like it is with x86. I don`t see e.g. devoted AresOne line being cheap x86 selling in thousands.
Having choices of your own doesn`t negate ability of others to have choices, just like introducing right to someone else doesn`t
necessarily hurt right of your own.
So this kind of X1000 hate, was never before seen when e.g. Pegasos or MorphOS hardware was introduced.
remember there were long and dark time with no HARDWARE at all. Yes, now those who want AOS4, like I do, have to pay for custom hardware.
Would I be happier with Moana? Probably. But I do see that A-EON is doing something for that small AOS4 community and find it sad that its more bashed then leeches like C-USA / Roberto.