NO OS4 BEFORE END OF YEAR!!!

[Loki1]

Well, I followed the thread.  The orignal post has been removed.

This "OneVision" has no data in his profile and his email address is bogus!

This does not appear to be valid, but FUD!

Loki

[Leo42]

                      Hi,

Ben Yoris doesn't work anymore for Hyperion: this
page on Hyperion's website has not been updated
since a long long time...

Regards,
Leo.

[T_Bone]

> This does not appear to be valid, but FUD!

I'm not saying any of this is true one way or the other, but just because something may be FUD does not means it's not valid.

If you FEAR a product, you're UNCERTAIN of a product, and you DOUBT the product, then chances are, either someone representing the product needs to get into gear addressing the problem, or the consumer should choose a product they're more comfortable with.

Just thought I'd point that out, as the word "FUD" is a bit overused around here lately, and usually used incorrectly. "FUD" does not mean "Rumor that's untrue."

On a side note, this may be a "Rumor that's untrue." anyway )

[anarchic_teapot]

Treke wrote:

The fact that the Frieden brothers are staying away from this thread can signal something (because if it is an absolute FUD they - especially Hans-Jörg - react fairly quicky, on such a topic).

Except when they decide to stay away from the public forums because the combined ignorance, rudeness and general lack of clue of a small but extremely loud set of individuals is getting to be bad for their health.

I wouldn't take a lack of response one way or the other.

[Glaucus]

Sorry to say, but I guess Ben Yoris (ex PR Manager of Hyperion) has a bit more insight-information than you. So if something is coming from him it's not FUD or anything.

He might also have an axe to grind. Fact is no one knows for sure and although we're all tired of waiting we'll just have to keep on waiting anyway.

  - Mike

[Tomas]

okay then, if this is true... Im out of here. No way im buying an AmigaONE if its atleast nearly a year for the release... sigh. AmigaONE is allready outdated, wonder how outdated it will be in a year from now... x86 running at 5ghz+ or something?

[SteaG]

This "OneVision" has no data in his profile and his email address is bogus!

As I'm the webmaster of Amiga Impact and a friend of Ben Yoris, I can assure you this is really him. Now, believe what you want on the case, I'm not here to tell you what you have to think about AmigaOS 4 or anything.

My last note on this subject, the French Amiga community in itself is quite small. So, as our website is french-speaking only, you can guess our audience isn't very large compared to Amiga.org or ANN. So, it's easy to speak there, as if you were speaking to some family or mates. Well, I guess, this probably won't happen anymore.

À bientôt,

[Coder]

The end of 2003 or later does seem to be a bit off. But the fact remains that so far there is no OS4 out there for us to use. It's ready when it's ready will keep creating those speculations. But let me add that if it indeed gets out at the end of this year it's a dead thing even before it hits the street. Personally I do not think it will be out in March.

But back to reality, there is no OS4 yet and I guess we just have to wait untill it is there.

Coder

[anarchic_teapot]

downix wrote:
Relax guys, this message is being taken far too extreme.  It was a warning due to a french reseller claiming that AOS4 would be shipping in March, when it's release date would be announced in march.

The French reseller was me, and the correct translation is "should be available" (future conditional) and not "will be shipping".

[T_Bone]

> okay then, if this is true... Im out of here.

Realistically, nobody knows when it's going to be done, not Ben Yoris, not Ben Hermans, nor you or I. I wouldn't be too hard on them for not being able to pin it down to a certain week, you have many people working at different speeds on different parts of an OS. It's anyones guess really, but personally I doubt it will take untill next year.

Would it really be such a bad thing if it does take the rest of this year? At least with the commitments being made to OS4/A1 that are quite visible, it's at least obvious that this isn't vapor or a hoax, and that something will actually materialise, unlike many projects in the past, and possibly 'those' T-shirts.

[AmiGR]

He confirmed it on IRC. And yes, it WAS him on IRC.

[Coder]

@T_Bone

Would it really be such a bad thing if it does take the rest of this year?

Yes it would. You start loosing people by that. There is no way anyone will wait for the end of this year for OS4. How sad that might be.

Coder

[T_Bone]

> Yes it would. You start loosing people by that.

You're right, of course, but out of curiousity, I wonder how many people would leave. The people who were willing to shell out for an A1 arn't a fickle bunch, the pricetag pretty much filtered out the fickle!

> There is no way anyone will wait for the end of this
> year for OS4. How sad that might be.

I hear ya, I remember the bomb Eyetech dropped last year :/ (although it's worked out for the better IMO)

If it's going to take another year, I don't know if there's anything Hyperion can do about it. The wait might be a lot easier if they'd be a little more liberal with progress and details, BIG JUICY technical details not the marketing prose on Amiga.com, a public (well, to boardowners) beta might make the wait easier as well.

[Tomas]

Would it really be such a bad thing if it does take the rest of this year?

Yes, cause then AmigaONE would be VERY outdated, in a year from now, i bet i can get a used/outdated model, which is WAY than the current AmigaONE but at half of the prize of the Aone, so who do you think would get it then??

They shouldent have released the AmigaONE either before the OS was ready... Then atleast the HW would be a bit more current.

[T_Bone]

> Yes, cause then AmigaONE would be VERY
> outdated, in a year from now.

Well, that's a given weather or not the OS is released by then

> They shouldent have released the AmigaONE
>  either before the OS was ready... Then atleast the
>  HW would be a bit more current.

It's kind of a chicken/egg thing I believe, they need to develope on something. (of course they could have just ordered a few developer boards, and tweaked as needed near release time for new hardware)

ugh. Can you imagine being the one to have to break that news to all of us here? =0

[Edit-Chick]

If O/s 4 is going to be another year (or more ?) Then I might as well persuade Paul to part with the £600 he's saved up and put it towards that 52" television I saw in Miller Bros last weekend !!