**Need Setup HELP** with Classic Amiga 2000 HARD DISK (Bridgeboard)

[Pat the Cat]

Shoot!!!

I peeked at the Motherboard.
The Amiga 68000 CPU is much larger then the 68010 I got.

I never knew they came in different sizes. (What is the part # I should be looking for, for proper 68010)

Oh well the 68010 was only $5

They come in SMD and DIL form factors (Dual Inline set of pins rather than squarish).

68020 and above is never DIL, below that (first types released) were in DIL but later you could get SMD squarish ones.

So the part number is still 68010, form factor of DIL ("I want a rectangular one with two sets of pins, not a squarish one with pins on all sides") should get you one that fits.

That doesn't mean it will go any faster. Seem to recall mine coming on a circuit board with a few extras on it (clock frequency doubler, I think it was). And a dual set of pins underneath to connect it to the socket.

Sorry to be vague on that last point, it's been a LONG time...

Amiga ACCELERATOR Arrived (Won't be needing a Vampire Card )


Yup it finally arrived from China.

Ah, that isn't a 68010. It's a 68008, an eight bit version as found in the Sinclair QL... And sadly never in an Amiga.

[wbrejnia]

NEW Phase of A2000 Build Project Starting (Multi-OS, SW install, and SideKick)

HW build is done, so Moved A2000 & Explorer off my workbench and Onto My desk.

Much more Comfortable.  No more standing for hours.
Get to watch the Fish Swim while I wait for Slow stuff to happen.



Also the Case for the AMIGA "SideKick" arrived from China.



This is the box (Matches nicely with Amiga Color) that will have some Automation to Run the Amiga.
Not sure exactly how, but time will tell.

So first step is to backup current Workbench 3.1

The build multi Partitions for each OS and figure out which Kickstart's I need.

Top Priority is to ensure Bridge board Works.

I ALSO found a Proper 68010L8 CPU (Sufix must be L8 to Fit into Amiga)
China wanted $60 US, but then I found one in a Bulgaria Electonic Supplier for $16.59 US (Shipping $6)
http://panda-bg.com/bg/product/%D0%98%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D1%81%D1%85%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B0-MC68010L8-DIP-64/040191/

And a while Back I won this InfoCom Treasures Package on Ebay.
This will bring back some Good Old Memories.  Plenty of games I never tried.



I know for sure, and I tell my kids, that my excellent problem solving skills today are because I played the Infocom Games a lot, and enjoyed solving them.

[wbrejnia]

Proper 68010L8 CPU arrived.

This one came all the way from Bulgaria.  Price was resonable for Brand New.

http://panda-bg.com/en/product/CPU-MC68010L8-DIP-64/040191/



Much better then the last one.  Looks like it will fit.

Project is on Hold with Busy summer.

[wbrejnia]

Summer break is over.
 Kids back in school.
 
 Getting the itch to restart and finish this project.

[MashMalow]

Hi everybody! (and wbrejnia )
Expectacular thread!!!
There're a lot of information, tests, headaches, milestones, and... color fishes!

Let me introduce myself!
I'm an owner of a Commodore Amiga A2000 equiped with a Bridgeboard A2088. And a MFM hard disk which is broken.

All I'm going to comment on is done with the WinUAE. I'm conducting tests before testing with the original hardware. The UAE program is set up exactly like my computer. (Including ROMs)

I installed a CF card (20Mb) as a hard drive. (PC side) And it Works.
I made two partitions.
One partition with Fdisk utility, active and formated. The bridgeboard startup perfectly as C unit.
And I had made with Adisk, a second partición (20Mb)



I've been trying all the versions of Janus.

But when I try to run the DJMount command from CLI, the message "Divide Overflow " appears on the PC screen. And the CLI hangs.

Some clue to start from zero. (Again)?:confused:

What is the combination that finally works? (Janus version and WB version)

A note. I have a 1.2 kickstart (my A2000 is a German revisión) and my bridgeboard revisión is the 3.4



note 2: Forget the small partitions. They were tests from the partition manager.

[wbrejnia]

HI Mashmalow,

Good timing I just finished my Fish Tank Project

I need something to do.

I will help you.

I will power up my Amiga & Bridgeboard tonight, and remind myself what worked. (I kept my one Floppy where it worked)

If I remember correctly, It worked with SD card, but not with Compact Flash.
Let me double check since that testing was long time ago.
 
 My name is Wally.

[wbrejnia]

Hi everybody! (and wbrejnia )
Expectacular thread!!!
There're a lot of information, tests, headaches, milestones, and... color fishes!

Let me introduce myself!
I'm an owner of a Commodore Amiga A2000 equiped with a Bridgeboard A2088. And a MFM hard disk which is broken.

All I'm going to comment on is done with the WinUAE. I'm conducting tests before testing with the original hardware. The UAE program is set up exactly like my computer. (Including ROMs)

I installed a CF card (20Mb) as a hard drive. (PC side) And it Works.
I made two partitions.
One partition with Fdisk utility, active and formated. The bridgeboard startup perfectly as C unit.
And I had made with Adisk, a second partición (20Mb)



I've been trying all the versions of Janus.

But when I try to run the DJMount command from CLI, the message "Divide Overflow " appears on the PC screen. And the CLI hangs.

Some clue to start from zero. (Again)?:confused:

What is the combination that finally works? (Janus version and WB version)

A note. I have a 1.2 kickstart (my A2000 is a German revisión) and my bridgeboard revisión is the 3.4



note 2: Forget the small partitions. They were tests from the partition manager.

SOMETHING is WRONG (with what YOU SHOW above).

(#001) In Screenshot you SHOW AMIGA PARTION1, and DOS PARITION 4 ** That will not work (DOS must be PARTIOIN 1, just like in Bridgeboard install manual ***

(#002) In words you say
I installed a CF card (20Mb) as a hard drive. (PC side) And it Works.
I made two partitions.
One partition with Fdisk utility, active and formated. The bridgeboard startup perfectly as C unit.
And I had made with Adisk, a second partición (20Mb)

which way is your FLASH Card Setup (#001) or (#002).

 0) Boot DOS From Floppy DOS DISK
1) Use FDISK and Make FLASH PARTITION 1 (DOS), make it PRIMARY (ACTIVE)
 2) USe ADISK and Make FLASH PARTITION 2 (AMIGA)
 3) Format C: /s (with DOS Format Command and install DOS bootblock)
 
 4) Take out Floppy and REBOOT

[wbrejnia]

I am checking my past PARTITION information.
 
 Then I will boot AMIGA and check LIVE.

[MashMalow]

Hi Wally!

The partition active (on the PC side) Works perfectly.

(The images coming from my thread from another fórum.)

(#001) Strange, but the PC boots from partition number 4.
Ok! I'll change the partitions. '1' for PC and '2' for Amiga.

(#002)I will follow the steps indicated in order. Order is very important.

Thx!:)

[wbrejnia]

Hi Wally!

The partition active (on the PC side) Works perfectly.

(The images coming from my thread from another fórum.)

(#001) Strange, but the PC boots from partition number 4.
Ok! I'll change the partitions. '1' for PC and '2' for Amiga.

(#002)I will follow the steps indicated in order. Order is very important.

Thx!:)

I am confused.
In your screenshot above. PC boots (DOS WORKS).
What is you problem? Booting AMIGA from Compact Flash?
 
 I THINK I UNDERSTAND now.  You are stuck at DJMOUNT.
 I need to look into that.  Very specific versions of JANUS needed (Only worked for me with certain Versions [KICKSTART, Workbench, and JANUS).

[wbrejnia]

I DID IT !!

(All things working [ C: PC RLL Drive] [ D: PC SD Card Drive ] [ JH0: PC RLL Drive Amiga Parition off RLL Bridgeboard] )




I did get worried since after many boots/configs/jumpers, I couldn't get the Lo-Tech ISA/IDE drive to Initialize (even with CTRL-ALT-DEL)

Then I tried that last Workbench that got the Lo-Tech Working with a 5.25" MS DOS Boot Floppy.

Everything booted, Everything Recognized (without the 5.25" Floppy)

Hi Mashmalow,

I looked into past post.
I had to use Install with Janus Library 33.4 to get DJmount to work.
After that things went fine.

I can do that setup for you on MY Amiga. (I didn't do much after I got it working [ONLY on Workbench 1.2] ).

[MashMalow]

Hi wally!

I was trying with diferents version of Janus, but I see a diference respect my configuration.

You have two hard disk. One RLL for C: and XTIDE HD for D:
You Amiga partition is in the RLL disk and I'm trying make an Amiga partition on my XTIDE controller.
I have a kickstart 1.2 and a workbenck 1.3 (but i also keep the version 1.2 disk)
My test was without instalations, directly with the Bridgeboard instalation disk and afther launching the PC. Maybe that's the problem, not all libraries must be properly installed.

Effectively, the BB boot from PC side always works. And since I don't have hard drive for ZORRO II card, this is the reason to try it.

Do you remember this headdache?


mmmmmmH.... I see.... Janus 33.2

OK!!! I'll try from zero with the 33.4 Janus version!!!!

Another thing, How is the startup-sequence configured?

And the librarys?

Wait... Xavier (MashMalow)... Wait... In order. XD

[wbrejnia]

Hi wally!

I was trying with diferents version of Janus, but I see a diference respect my configuration.

You have two hard disk. One RLL for C: and XTIDE HD for D:
You Amiga partition is in the RLL disk and I'm trying make an Amiga partition on my XTIDE controller.
I have a kickstart 1.2 and a workbenck 1.3 (but i also keep the version 1.2 disk)
My test was without instalations, directly with the Bridgeboard instalation disk and afther launching the PC. Maybe that's the problem, not all libraries must be properly installed.

Effectively, the BB boot from PC side always works. And since I don't have hard drive for ZORRO II card, this is the reason to try it.

Do you remember this headdache?


mmmmmmH.... I see.... Janus 33.2

OK!!! I'll try from zero with the 33.4 Janus version!!!!

Another thing, How is the startup-sequence configured?

And the librarys?

Wait... Xavier (MashMalow)... Wait... In order. XD

Xaxier,

Let's do this very organized.

1) (YOU) try 33.4 (Yes it only worked with specific version. WORKED only once for me, then I stopped progress)
----> Yes you should do Workbench 1.2 (I never tried 1.3)  ** I don't think STARTUP-Sequence is problem **

If it doesn't work for you....

2) (ME) I will setup my AMIGA with just (ISA/IDE -XTIDE/SD CARD)
----> to be exactly the same as your setup.

[wbrejnia]

Xavier,

Any luck?

I was digging thru my stuff and forgot I bought an extra Amiga 2000 Kickstart switcher.

I got the Roland 4x ROM switcher which I installed and working with 4 Kickstarts.

But then the Unitech Switcher Arrived in the MAIL after being lost.
 LOST in MAIL on way from Australia for 3 months.

This Unitech Arrived:

http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=684

 
 Here are the two  Switchers, I have.

Keeping the bottom one.  Don't need the top one.
 




I will be selling on Ebay, since I don't need two Switchers.
 
 But maybe you will need one, so just letting you know.

[MashMalow]

Hi Wally!
I'm spending my time on a little hollydays (my wife is THE boss XD). I'm out of may home and it's not possible make test and comprobations.
Next monday I'll arrive to my home and I want tray that you had said.

About the kickroms...
Four kickroms? I have only 512k of chip ram and my fast is damage. I have a zorro with 2mb but i condirer change to KS2 is too for my shot memory. And the diferenve between 1.2 and 1.3 i think is only for launch the SO from SCSI. And.. I havent a SCSI driver.

Thanks for the clue.
Let me time to made the tests.

[wbrejnia]

Enjoy vacation.  Much more important than old computers.