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Operating System Specific Discussions => Other Operating Systems => Topic started by: trekiej on May 24, 2021, 05:35:21 PM

Title: Open Source Sucess
Post by: trekiej on May 24, 2021, 05:35:21 PM
I think this is an interesting link.
https://hostingtribunal.com/blog/linux-statistics/#gref

Open Source software does not seem to have the success we wish it could have.
Windders is still in the lead.
Title: Re: Open Source Sucess
Post by: carvedeye on May 24, 2021, 11:40:28 PM
Awesome read, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Open Source Sucess
Post by: AmigaNG on May 28, 2021, 01:20:35 PM
What Linux really needs is a huge advertising and a software package like Adobe CC. They really need to educate people what you can do, I still run into people thinking they need windows because they need Microsoft Office or Apple Mac because of video / photo editing.

Open Office / Libre Office / Google Office suit kind of really proves you dont need MS Office any more and really easy to recommend.

However the Photoshop Vs Gimp I feel is harder to show off / recommend.

Video editing its even harder, there of course solutions on Linux, (Kdenlive, Blender etc ) but as a media suit like Adobe Creative Cloud or Apple Final Cut Pro, it become harder to recommend Linux. This I feel is the biggest gap they need to fill.

Gaming, you could argue is another area, but Vlukan support and Wine improvements have really made playing windows games on linux a lot easier, plus streaming games I feel is only a few years away, I know google stadia and Xbox stream pass is struggling to get going, I think the ping speed / Broadband tech need to get a little better to get there, but it getting closer. so again that gap filled, it just about educating people out there what you can do with linux and like I said fill in the gap of making a media suit of programs.
Title: Re: Open Source Sucess
Post by: pwyskowski on May 28, 2021, 08:37:32 PM
OpenShot is a pretty good video editor for Linux.

https://www.openshot.org/
Title: Re: Open Source Sucess
Post by: SamuraiCrow on May 30, 2021, 08:34:05 PM
Fuchsia is also an open-source operating system that stands positioned to eat Linux's lunch.  It comes with a backward-compatibility layer for its Zircon kernel to run Linux binaries.  None of Fuchsia is GPL licensed.  I think Linux kernel usage will trail off soon.
Title: Re: Open Source Sucess
Post by: slaapliedje on May 30, 2021, 10:05:23 PM
What Linux really needs is a huge advertising and a software package like Adobe CC. They really need to educate people what you can do, I still run into people thinking they need windows because they need Microsoft Office or Apple Mac because of video / photo editing.

Open Office / Libre Office / Google Office suit kind of really proves you dont need MS Office any more and really easy to recommend.

However the Photoshop Vs Gimp I feel is harder to show off / recommend.

Video editing its even harder, there of course solutions on Linux, (Kdenlive, Blender etc ) but as a media suit like Adobe Creative Cloud or Apple Final Cut Pro, it become harder to recommend Linux. This I feel is the biggest gap they need to fill.

Gaming, you could argue is another area, but Vlukan support and Wine improvements have really made playing windows games on linux a lot easier, plus streaming games I feel is only a few years away, I know google stadia and Xbox stream pass is struggling to get going, I think the ping speed / Broadband tech need to get a little better to get there, but it getting closer. so again that gap filled, it just about educating people out there what you can do with linux and like I said fill in the gap of making a media suit of programs.
Gaming issue is more or less solved with Steam/Proton, Wine, etc.

Everything else is... well OpenOffice is fine for anyone who just needs to write a document, and even for most things where people claim they require MS Office.  Video editing is a pretty specific thing, that for sure Linux is getting better at all the time, so eventually could be argued as a decent solution for people who can't (or don't want to) afford the Adobe subscriptions.

It's the forever moving goal post of 'Year of Desktop Linux'  It's served as mine and my family's desktop usage for decades at this point.  Your average person is fine with gaming, internet and email and don't need any video editing or even writing reports and such (which can do with any text editor under the sun, and if Linux has lots of anything, it's text editors!)

Fuchsia is also an open-source operating system that stands positioned to eat Linux's lunch.  It comes with a backward-compatibility layer for its Zircon kernel to run Linux binaries.  None of Fuchsia is GPL licensed.  I think Linux kernel usage will trail off soon.
Ha ha ha ha!  Fuchsia is Google's little pet project that only they are working on.  Linux has backing of a huge amount of companies.  I'm betting it at most gets used in a few embedded systems then gets forgotten about.  For those that are so anti-GPL, the BSDs should have taken off and made Linux kernel usage trail off, right??? 
Title: Re: Open Source Sucess
Post by: slaapliedje on May 30, 2021, 10:09:34 PM
I think this is an interesting link.
https://hostingtribunal.com/blog/linux-statistics/#gref

Open Source software does not seem to have the success we wish it could have.
Windders is still in the lead.
I only skimmed it, but I kind of read that the opposite way, that pretty much most of the internet and all smart computers run on Linux.  I'd say it's a win there.  Windows is still installed by default on like 95% of all computers sold in retail places.  So yeah, I mean until some marketing for selling in retail chains can be spent by IBM or Canonical or even getting System76 systems into say Best Buy / Walmart... then yeah the numbers there won't really change.