apple great desing

[runequester]

You sound like one of my economics professors, Kesa.
 
Can you tell me exactly what makes the iPod stand out above all other mp3 players? I've never owned one and can't really see any unusual features except for iTunes.
 
In which case, its the marketing model, not the device that has added value (uh, I went to school too).

When MP3 players came out, the Ipod was crap but the competition was ****e?

[runequester]

Foxconn accounts for something like 40% of the consumer electronics being sold. It's inescapable.
It has nothing to do with Apple, it's all of us.

We chose lives that are held up by slave labour, but we pretend that "moral shopping" and brand loyalty will make it okay.

[runequester]

The hero worship is pretty nuts. What about the guys who designed and engineered and coded and...and...and...

[runequester]

I don't care what kind of a guy he was, the products are great.

It works the other way around too: I don't like Windows, but think Bill Gates is a pretty nice guy.

On the upside, Gates has donated tons of money to worthy causes. On the downside, he was the guy who lied to congress to get more immigrant visas
http://programmersguild.org/docs/bill_gates_lies_about_h1b_wages.html

[runequester]

Yeah, Apple's doing so badly, the largest market cap of any company in history, people queuing 24+ hours for a new product, accolades in most every tech journal on the planet.  Yep, a sinking ship for sure.  

Seriously there are companies with far less scruples such as Walmart or BAIN or the Koch brothers business.  Why the hate for Apple?

My guess is people bought into the idea of the "good corporation" and the image of apple being clean and slick and superior. Nobody had that illusion about walmart at any point.

So when reality comes through, people get pretty grim.

[runequester]

Right. A lot of people got computers because they wanted to do specific things that computers let you do.

Now, that there's options to do those things, without having to **** about with a computer, they'll get those options instead.

[runequester]

Ahhhhhhhhh, btw, now looks like a major tech/geek news website agrees with me:

http://gizmodo.com/5946425/the-new-apple-it-doesnt-just-work

just to remind everyone:

You seem to have a mistaken belief that superior products is what determines commercial success. History would seem to disagree.

[runequester]

Me?? Have you took the time to look my previous replies on this topic or you're just randomly replying? What's next? Quote and describe the BETAMAX vs VHS case?

Every time a big company like Apple releases something, this or that tech site will line up to say why it's ****, and all the angry nerds will march in line. They're probably right too.

Meanwhile, Apple laughs all the way to the bank, because this or that theoretical short coming makes no difference whatsoever to whether people buy their newest gadget.

[runequester]

Rune, sorry for the angry reply yesterday. I was a little upset with my 9to7 responsibilities....

No worries at all comrade.