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Re: Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?
« Reply #59 from previous page: March 17, 2007, 03:18:23 PM »
@Ratte

Thanks, some interesting differences between your 9800 and the Geforce FX-series. The speed of several functions differs quite a lot between both. Impossible to say which card is "best" or "fastest" however I guess.

Athlon XP2900+, Nforce2, Geforce FX5200:

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| RectFill() Pattern........    667 op/s  |
| WritePixel().............. 2652861 op/s  |
| WriteChunkyPixels().......   5070 op/s  |
| WritePixelArray8()........   5068 op/s  |
| WritePixelLine8()......... 178357 op/s  |
| DrawEllipse().............  91589 op/s  |
| DrawCircle()..............  95400 op/s  |
| Draw()....................  23485 op/s  |
| Draw() Hor/Ver............  75747 op/s  |
| ScrollRaster() X..........    377 op/s  |
| ScrollRaster() Y..........    380 op/s  |
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| BlitBitMap()..............  24647 op/s  |
| BlitBitMapRastPort()......  22814 op/s  |
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| OpenWindow()..............   1692 op/s  |
| MoveWindow()..............   4655 op/s  |
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Re: Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?
« Reply #60 on: March 17, 2007, 04:52:18 PM »
I also own an GF3Ti500 64MB and in most functions it is faster compared to the Radeon.
But I have to use a CRT with the GF3, because my TFT isn´t working on GF-DVI and Amithlon.
 

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Re: Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?
« Reply #61 on: March 19, 2007, 09:50:26 AM »
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But I have to use a CRT with the GF3, because my TFT isn´t working on GF-DVI and Amithlon.


Have you already tried to force DVI-display (see this thread)?

A little OT, but is anyone of you using

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Setconfig >NIL: asynchronous_io 1

in startup-sequence to enable Asynchronous input/output?
Does it offer any advantages?

For now, I have only set a larger JIT cache size with

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Setconfig >NIL: cachesize 655363

since I surely do have enough RAM.
 

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Re: Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?
« Reply #62 on: March 26, 2007, 07:18:00 AM »
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Shadowolf wrote:

The one I just bought is from Creative and although I
have no information what specific modell it is,
it looks exactly like the Leadtek card.

This is it:

http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/3dblaster_fx_5900/index.shtml


And it works just as fine as expected.
Plus Oblivion looks a lot better than with my GF4 now. :-)
 

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Re: Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?
« Reply #63 on: May 03, 2007, 12:13:08 AM »
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Would it also be possible to "unlock" the 1600x1200 modes there? After doing an extensive search through various forums I have come to the conclusions that nobody ever managed to successfully define a 1600x1200 or higher screenmode in Amithlon.


Oh snap!

I just ordered an FX5200 because I didn't get screen modes above 1600*1200 working on my GeForce MX - in fact even smaller ones in 16:10 aspect refuse to work. I figured it was just because it was an ancient card.

Now I'll just have to figure out whether getting DVI instead of VGA is worth the price of the graphics card  :roll:
 

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Re: Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?
« Reply #64 on: May 04, 2007, 01:13:29 PM »
Since I have a few days to think about this before the graphics card arrives: Is it possible that resolutions above 1600x1200 or at least 16:10 resolutions like 1680x1050 will ever work with Amithlon on an FX 5200 card?

If not I think I'll be better off sticking with a mixture of my R9550 and GF2 MX. I can still return the card and get my money back by simply refusing to accept the package, so I'd appreciate any input on this.
 

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Re: Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?
« Reply #65 on: May 04, 2007, 01:40:02 PM »
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Since I have a few days to think about this before the graphics card arrives: Is it possible that resolutions above 1600x1200 or at least 16:10 resolutions like 1680x1050 will ever work with Amithlon on an FX 5200 card?


I am still looking for a solution to that, although I must admit that I haven't tinkered with Amithlon for some time. Someone suggested to use "picasso96fix" which is included in Winuae.
This fix allows larger screen widths in Picasso96 and should be started before loadwb in startup-sequence.

Would be nice if you could report back if this works for you.  :-)
 

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Re: Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?
« Reply #66 on: May 04, 2007, 01:41:44 PM »
Interesting! Thanks..  I'll get right on it.
 

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Re: Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?
« Reply #67 on: May 04, 2007, 01:52:26 PM »
OK, noob question here...

I have plenty of computer parts laying around that would make nice Amithlon computers. I've also bookmarked the kernel updates site so the big remaining question is... where do I get a copy of Amithlon. I know there were legal issues and they had to quit selling it but is it available anywhere?

 

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Re: Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?
« Reply #68 on: May 04, 2007, 01:53:28 PM »
@Trez

If you intend to use DVI with your flatpanel, make sure to use these kernel options in your loadlin-bat:

"video=riva:640x480,flatpanel=1"
 

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Re: Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?
« Reply #69 on: May 04, 2007, 01:58:22 PM »
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I know there were legal issues and they had to quit selling it but is it available anywhere?


The only place that still lists Amithlon is Software Hut.
With a lot of luck, you might also manage to pick up a copy on ebay. Unfortunately, these are the only legal sources that I know of.
Also see this thread.
 

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Re: Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?
« Reply #70 on: May 04, 2007, 02:06:17 PM »
Sadly picasso96fix seems to have no effect. The best I have been able to get out of the card is still 1600x1200 and no widescreen modes (if I configure 1680x1050 I just get 1280x1024 oddly enough).

I wonder which component is causing this. I know my micro can output 1920x1200 just fine with its Radeon 7000, so I guess it is not because of P96 - unless something related to this has been fixed in the one that comes with OS4.

Oddly enough the DVI port on my Radeon 9550 just worked without me changing anything in the configuration.
 

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Re: Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?
« Reply #71 on: May 04, 2007, 02:29:11 PM »
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The best I have been able to get out of the card is still 1600x1200 and no widescreen modes (if I configure 1680x1050 I just get 1280x1024 oddly enough).


How did you get 1600x1200 working? Could you please list the exact timings (pixel clock etc.) so I can try them? I already tried with the specs of my TFT to no avail.

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I know my micro can output 1920x1200 just fine with its Radeon 7000, so I guess it is not because of P96 - unless something related to this has been fixed in the one that comes with OS4.


I remember that someone was suggesting that it's an issue of the kernel module which limits the maximum resolution. Maybe it was even mentioned in this thread, but I am currently to lazy search for it. ;-)

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Oddly enough the DVI port on my Radeon 9550 just worked without me changing anything in the configuration.


Yep, I think the "flatpanel=1" option is only required for certain nvidia-cards.
 

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Re: Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?
« Reply #72 on: May 04, 2007, 08:02:06 PM »
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How did you get 1600x1200 working? Could you please list the exact timings (pixel clock etc.) so I can try them? I already tried with the specs of my TFT to no avail.


Well, I did not really do anything special...

I created the mode, changed the pixel clock till I had 60 Hz in the bottom right frequency field (pixel clock was then at 172.35) and that was it.

This only worked with the GeForce of course, as the Radeon was limited to 1280x1024.

I really wish this could be adressed. If I could just get the native resolution of my monitor (1920x1200) or at least another 16:10 aspect mode, I would be one happy puppy.
 

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Re: Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?
« Reply #73 on: June 04, 2007, 09:21:46 PM »
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humppa wrote:

Are the Geforce FX 5200 and 5500 really the fastest cards which fit these criteria? Any other suggestions? What about ATI cards? There are even some Geforce4 MX with DVI connector, would those work?


well, radeon 9600 series (all) run very well on Amithlon, in full 2D hardware acceleration (only 128 MB card).
9600 serie with 256 MB, only in VESA, maybe in the next kernel will be fixed... :roll:

Geforce 3 ti 200 (and i think all geforce 3 series) run very well in hardware acceleration, like Geforce 2 MX and geforce 4 MX440 (i don't sure, i have tried this board some years ago with older kernel).





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Re: Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?
« Reply #74 on: August 10, 2007, 02:37:55 PM »
Will a GF7600GT work with VESA modes AND with DVI? I have one but both outputs are DVI. I'd like to keep it in the machine for when I boot into XP and not Amithlon?!?