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Offline utri007

Re: Deneb Zorro II/III DMA USB 2.0 controller available
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2008, 10:26:27 PM »
Can I put OS 3.9 rom to flash memory and use it to boot my amiga?
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Re: Deneb Zorro II/III DMA USB 2.0 controller available
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2008, 01:58:33 AM »
I went to the AmigaKit store to preorder one for myself, until I saw the price.  Ouch!  I was thinking it would be a little more than half that amount.  I am going to have to wait until the US dollar makes a bit of a rebound (wishful thinking).
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Offline Matt_H

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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2008, 02:48:33 AM »
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Can I put OS 3.9 rom to flash memory and use it to boot my amiga?

Yes. I've been doing so with the Algor for several years now.
 

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Re: Deneb Zorro II/III DMA USB 2.0 controller available
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2008, 05:32:37 AM »
Ooh. Gonna have to get one of those. Got one Zorro III slot left in the 4000...
 

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Re: Deneb Zorro II/III DMA USB 2.0 controller available
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2008, 06:27:23 AM »
While I can't change the price, it'd like to point out that your not "only" getting a USB 2.0 host controller, but also 4 MB of flashrom (eFlash 1+1MB 50 EUR, Kickflash 1MB 40 EUR), Poseidon V4.0 (V3.x was sold at 38 EUR), get the ability to use USB Soundcards (a feature not available to any other USB solution on the Amiga market) which can be obtained for less than 10 EUR (Delfina 130 EUR), can use USB Ethernet Adapters also available for less than 20 EUR (XSurf >100 EUR), use IDE or SATA adapters to reach speeds more than twice of the internal IDE even in PIO mode, and many more devices than just the usual mouse/keyboard stuff. Ah, and there's a clockport too.

We really spent a good time on developing this beast (about three years from thought to various prototypes as depicted on the E3B website). I think the price is pretty good considering this.
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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2008, 07:33:28 AM »
Yeah, considering all the features, the price is 100% reasonable IMO (cheap ethernet and audio options, just awesome). Actually, I'm surprised cool new Amiga HW like this can be developed _at all_ for >$200.

But I do hear ya amigadave... our economy has tanked somewhat, and it's harder to justify extraneous purchases these days. :(
 

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Re: Deneb Zorro II/III DMA USB 2.0 controller available
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2008, 09:07:22 AM »
Can you use any USB soundcard/NIC/Sata adapter or do you need to use special ones verified to work on Amiga?
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Re: Deneb Zorro II/III DMA USB 2.0 controller available
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2008, 03:58:47 PM »
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Can you use any USB soundcard/NIC/Sata adapter or do you need to use special ones verified to work on Amiga?


Any SATA adapter complying to Mass Storage Device class (shouldn't give any exceptions nowadays).

NICs: only certain Pegasus and ASIX chipsets are supported. I recommend Pegasus ones.

sound card: should also comply to the corresponding USB class definition; we tried cheapo 3EUR ones from ebay and found them working, but watch out for some quality here.

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Re: Deneb Zorro II/III DMA USB 2.0 controller available
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2008, 04:38:50 PM »
does NIC means ethernet adapter?

the ability to use a cheap ethernet adapter is the main reason (not the only one of course) I am interested in deneb. Have you considered compiling lists of compatible adapters?
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Re: Deneb Zorro II/III DMA USB 2.0 controller available
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2008, 05:51:48 PM »
Supported NIC (Network Interface Chips):

pegasus.class:
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// MELCO/BUFFALO LUA-TX
// GOLDPFEIL USB Adapter
// smartNIC 2 PnP Adapter
// Corega FEter USB-TX
// MELCO/BUFFALO LUA-TX
// MELCO/BUFFALO LUA2-TX
// Kingston KNU101TX Ethernet
// Corega FEter USB-TXS
// Microsoft MN-110
// OCT Inc.
// Belkin F5D5050 USB Ethernet
// SMC 202 USB Ethernet
// SMC 2206 USB Ethernet
// EasiDock Ethernet
// ADKtek AN986A USB MAC
// Linksys USBVPN1
// OCT Inc.
// IO DATA USB ET/TX
// IO DATA USB ET/TX-S
// Billionton USB-100
// Billionton USBLP-100
// Billionton USBEL-100
// SpeedStream USB 10/100 Ethernet
// NETGEAR FA101
// Accton USB 10/100 Ethernet Adapter
// USB HPNA/Ethernet
// AEI USB Fast Ethernet Adapter
// ATEN USB Ethernet UC-110T
// D-Link DSB-650TX
// LANEED USB Ethernet LD-USB/TX
// USB 10/100 Fast Ethernet
// Linksys USB10TX
// Linksys USB10TX
// Linksys USB100TX
// Linksys USB100TX
// Linksys USB10T Ethernet Adapter
// Elsa Micolink USB2Ethernet
// D-Link DSB-650TX
// D-Link DSB-650TX
// LANEED USB Ethernet LD-USB/TX
// USB 10/100 Fast Ethernet
// D-Link DSB-650TX (PNA)
// USB HPNA/Ethernet
// LANEED USB Ethernet LD-USBL/TX
// USB HPNA/Ethernet
// D-Link DSB-650TX
// LANEED USB Ethernet LD-USB/TX
// Linksys USB100TX
// USB 10/100 Fast Ethernet
// Hawking UF100 10/100 Ethernet
// USB 10/100 Fast Ethernet
// ELECOM USB Ethernet LD-USB20
// D-Link DSB-650TX
// USB 10/100 Fast Ethernet
// USB HPNA/Ethernet
// 3Com USB Ethernet 3C460B
// SpeedStream USB 10/100 Ethernet
// GIGABYTE GN-BR402W Wireless Router
// HP hn210c Ethernet USB
// Billionton USBE-100
// iPAQ Networking 10/100 USB
// ADMtek ADM8511 'Pegasus II' USB Ethernet
// ADMtek ADM8513 'Pegasus II' USB Ethernet
// ADMtek ADM8515 'Pegasus II' USB-2.0 Ethernet
// SOHOware NUB100 Ethernet
// SOHOware NUB110 Ethernet
// D-Link DSB-650
// LANEED USB Ethernet LD-USB/T
// USB 10/100 Fast Ethernet
// Philips USB 10/100 Ethernet
// Allied Telesyn Int. AT-USB100    

asixeth.class:
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// Buffalo LUA-U2-KTX
// JVC MP-PRX1 Port Replicator
// ATEN UC210T
// Linksys USB200M
// corega FEther USB2-TX
// Hawking UF200, TrendNet TU2-ET100
// Netgear FA120
// Billionton Systems, USB2AR
// Intellinet, ST Lab USB Ethernet
// Surecom EP-1427X-2
// goodway corp usb gwusb2e
// DLink DUB-E100
// Sitecom LN-029 "USB 2.0 10/100 Ethernet adapter"
// IO-DATA ETG-US2
// ASIX AX88178 10/100/1000
// Linksys USB1000
// Belkin F5D5055
// DLink DUB-E100 H/W Ver B1
// DLink DUB-E100 H/W Ver B1 Alternate
// ASIX AX88772 10/100
// Linksys USB200M Rev 2
// 0Q0 cable ethernet  

This list is probably incomplete -- there might be several more rebranded adapters.
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Re: Deneb Zorro II/III DMA USB 2.0 controller available
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2008, 07:14:00 PM »
@Platon42 :

can I use a usb joypad with amiga games which are not "WB" friendly ?
 

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Re: Deneb Zorro II/III DMA USB 2.0 controller available
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2008, 08:26:17 PM »
Thanks for the list, it should be on the homepage also!  :-)  (perhaps its there however I could not find it)
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Re: Deneb Zorro II/III DMA USB 2.0 controller available
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2008, 08:31:09 PM »
I did not mean to really complain about the price.  I have no doubt that it is worth every penny (or the EUR equivalent).  I was just stating that I was not prepared for the price when I saw it and in my current financial situation, I will have to delay my purchase, not cancel any purchase.

It looks like a great piece of Amiga equipment and I want one.  Thanks for taking the time and energy to produce such a useful and needed product for those of us who still wish to use Classic Amiga computers.

My hat is off to you Sir.
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Re: Deneb Zorro II/III DMA USB 2.0 controller available
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2008, 10:49:21 PM »
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My hat is off to you Sir.


No, it's the wrong one you present your hat.

This one should be for the users and our customers, who did support us during a long time without new products and a shortage of Zorro USB controllers (there was a PhD thesis to finish, for example).

Even a good product is nothing without people using it :-)

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Re: Deneb Zorro II/III DMA USB 2.0 controller available
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2008, 11:10:33 PM »
I'd be interested to know the kind of performance you can get from the ethernet adaptors (with amitcp and miami). Miami is a fair amount slower i know (Shame roadshow was never available to buy for os3.x/m68k).
 

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Re: Deneb Zorro II/III DMA USB 2.0 controller available
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 09, 2008, 07:26:13 AM »
How much of the Amiga 2000's ZII autoconfig space would this card use?