FluffyMcDeath wrote:
AccyD wrote:
Everyone knows the risks associated with smoking
But everyone also knows that those risks only effect "other" people. :-D
That is immaterial, we have the information to hand if we choose to either disregard this, or view that it is not a risk worth worrying about then that is our choice.
I fully understand the risks that smoking has and that I have a 50/50 chance of dying from the effects but it is my choice, and for whatever personal reasons I have I choose to do it.
FluffyMcDeath wrote:
What has been found locally is that when a group of people go out for a few drinks, if there is a smoker (even only one) in the group, the group will generally go to a smoking establishment rather than alienate the smoker..... Crowds in bars are generally not risk averse anyway else why would they drink so much?
Yes, but they all have a choice - no one is forcing you or your friends to visit a smoking pub, you all have your right to decide where you visit.
Why should the Government legislate to avoid you or your friends feeling embarassed at upsetting your friends, by going to a non-smoking pub? People have to take responsiblity for their actions and not defer to the Government.
As said earlier if you are confident that your views are felt by so many people then vote with your feet and the pubs will follow......unless of course you are not that confident that the majority of people will follow your views??
Incidentally, are you now advocating that we ban drinking too?? :lol: :lol:
FluffyMcDeath wrote:
Anyway, it's funny to see a smoker getting so uptight about their habit. I don't think I was that uptight when I was a smoker, and if you are, it's a sign that you aren't smoking enough! :lol:
Its more the idea of free choice that I am advocating and that we should be able to make those choices ourselves rather than have the views of 658 people determine our choices for us.
FluffyMcDeath wrote:
BTW, smoke in a bar or your car or a room in your house is significantly more toxic that street level car polution, and car polution is quite strictly legislated in most of the industrialized world.
Yes, however, cars emit many more times more pollution than cigarettes in the UK. The pollutants in my 3,650 annual cigarettes I'm sure is dwarfed by the emmisions from my 40,000 miles travelled in my car each year.
Also, you have the option of avoiding cigarettes (visit only non-smoking areas) however, you cannot reasonably avoid motor vehicles so they probably have a much higher impact on the non-smokers health.