Wanna live longer? Stop other people smoking!!

[FluffyMcDeath]

Very intersting.
Sounds like a good reason to ban smoking in public areas.

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/04/05/sci-tech/smoke_ban040405

[bloodline]

Any reason to ban smoking is a good reason IMHO.

[blobrana]

Agreed...




We could even have a scorched earth policy?

[T_Bone]

Bah!

[Wolfe]

 :lol:

Can't afflict your self on other people for commiting crimes against humanity, but you can against smokers.   :lol:

OK.   :bigcry:   Spilt Milk.

[Seehund]

bloodline wrote:
Any reason to ban smoking is a good reason IMHO.

Yeah, the initial effect will be huge unsold stocks of cigarettes, so they'll come down in price and be much cheaper for ME! Hey, one can always hope...

Bah! Ban second hand smoking instead, so the whining leeching cheapskates will have to buy their own tobacco.

Actually, I've been trying to cut down on my smoking, and started to use Swedish wet snuff more and more.

[swift240]

I hope they ban smoking every where all over the place.
My wife has a friend who comes to visit now and then, she dont give a {bleep} about smoking in other peoples houses.
So I think its about time she was told "Sorry no smoking from now on"
I know this will shatter her world, but to bad. :-D  :-D
The sort of person who thinks that "No smoking" does NOT apply to her.

Its such a pitty that those who smoke are to WEAK willed to give it up.

Sad lot, they realy are.

Mike...... :-)  :-)

[AccyD]

swift240 wrote:
Its such a pitty that those who smoke are to WEAK willed to give it up.

I disagree. I'm a smoker and I actually enjoy smoking and willpower has nothing to do with it. I don't want to stop and don't see why the governement and others wish to impose their views on me.

As far as bans go, the ban in Ireland was unnessacery. If pubs & clubs want to go no smoking there is no law against it, the owners are completey within their rights to do that.

Why should they be forced to succum to the governments whim, smoke is not being forced onto employees or customers - if they want to work or socialise somewhere else, again, no one is stopping them from leaving these places.

The reason that these places have not banned smoking voluntarily is that they know that the inevitable impact will be less custom & thus less profits & less jobs. People have predicted that around 60,000 jobs could be lost in Ireland from the ban as less tourists visit the country, and when they do they won't visit the traditional inns.

Combined with less tobacco sales & thus less taxation, and the increase in social security benefits being paid to the unemployed this could really backfire on the Irish government.

[swift240]

Spoken like a true smoker.

Mike..... :-)

[AccyD]

swift240 wrote:
Spoken like a true smoker.

Mike..... :-)

Cor strong argument for your cause ........... :-)

[bloodline]

 disagree. I'm a smoker and I actually enjoy smoking and willpower has nothing to do with it. I don't want to stop and don't see why the governement and others wish to impose their views on me.
 

I don't believe you... you couldn't give up smoking any more than I could give up masturbating... I'm sure you'd be really unhappy if I sat down in a pub, poped my little chap in the table and then "manipulated it to issue"... however I'm sure we would all share in your delight as I proceed to smear the resultant emission in your hair, clothes and face...

Fortunatelly, for you, there is a public ban upon masturbation.

[swift240]

Now that I find funny.........

Mike..... :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D

[AccyD]

bloodline wrote:
you couldn't give up smoking any more than I could give up masturbating...

Did I say that I felt I could give up smoking??

No. I said i didn't want to. The two are very different. I assume it would be hard for me to stop (I haven't tried) but I don't want to, so why does willpower come into the argument??

bloodline wrote:
Fortunatelly, for you, there is a public ban upon masturbation.

You are taking your argument to the nth degree, and at which point it becomes absurd.

Using your reasoning, if I wanted to or didn't mind watching you (plural by the way not personal :-D)masturbate I would visit a Soho sex cinema, but I don't, so I don't visit those areas.

Translating this to our argument, if you don't want to visit a smoky atmosphere then only go to pubs which ban smoking - surely if there are so many of you then the pubs which presently allow smoking will ban it and you will have achieved your aim??

The reason more pubs do not ban smoking (as said in the previous post) is that it is not in their interests to do so as they know their trade will decline substantially.

So what I am saying is let market forces decide the outcome, not the government. Pub owners will go where the profits are, and it is plainly clear given the number of non-smoking pubs, that the market has shown that pub owners are better off allowing smoking as most people prefer it that way.

[bloodline]

I always abstract every situation to it's most extreme. That makes it easier to see.

Anyway, I have no problem with people smoking/masturbating in pubs. But what about walking down the street. I have no choice but to "enjoy" the experience of another persons addiction.

What say you?

[AccyD]

bloodline wrote:
But what about walking down the street. I have no choice but to "enjoy" the experience of another persons addiction.

What say you?

Considering the density of the traffic these days I would think that you are more likely to become ill due to the traffic fumes than the brief one second that you may pass a smoker on the street.

Does everyone want to ban the car??