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Title: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: sumner7 on February 20, 2004, 02:00:07 PM
Amazing, isn't it?  :-o

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3506329.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3506329.stm)
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: cecilia on February 20, 2004, 06:14:03 PM
when can i move?
 :idea:
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: that_punk_guy on February 20, 2004, 06:19:07 PM
Is Pluto even a planet? I mean, as planets go, that one's a bit of a loose cannon if you ask me... :-D
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on February 20, 2004, 06:21:20 PM
Pluto always facinated me, so far from the other planets and sun, and lonely, small and cold.
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: that_punk_guy on February 20, 2004, 06:41:24 PM
I actually "rediscovered" the stars the other night. I was staring at them and I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I think I made out the Big Dipper, but I could be wrong. Punk sis thought I was being silly :-(

I've tried taking pictures of the stars at night but they never come out, even with the longest exposure my digicam will do. I just get a few boring dots. I wish I could set the exposure manually.
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: whabang on February 20, 2004, 06:51:42 PM
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that_punk_guy wrote:
I actually "rediscovered" the stars the other night. I was staring at them and I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I think I made out the Big Dipper, but I could be wrong. Punk sis thought I was being silly :-(

I've tried taking pictures of the stars at night but they never come out, even with the longest exposure my digicam will do. I just get a few boring dots. I wish I could set the exposure manually.

Try taking pictures with 50 ISO-film, that should be enough to capture stars. (Prolly impossible on a digicam, though)
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: that_punk_guy on February 20, 2004, 06:57:15 PM
Thing is I don't like using real film 'cause it contains cow bits. :-(

Maybe I'll try on someone else's camera when they aren't looking :-)
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: KennyR on February 20, 2004, 06:58:59 PM
No Uranus jokes yet? No? Good. Keep it that way!
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: blobrana on February 20, 2004, 07:01:41 PM
Hum,
Watercolours?

impressive stuff, they have been looking for a big one for ages, and i think they have lined up another candidate as well...
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: T_Bone on February 21, 2004, 04:04:37 PM
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that_punk_guy wrote:
Thing is I don't like using real film 'cause it contains cow bits. :-(

 :roflmao:
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: that_punk_guy on February 21, 2004, 04:23:07 PM
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T_Bone wrote:
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that_punk_guy wrote:
Thing is I don't like using real film 'cause it contains cow bits. :-(

:roflmao:

I just knew you or iamaboringperson were going to laugh at me for that...

Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: KennyR on February 21, 2004, 05:18:56 PM
Well, I suppose film could be part of cows - if cows were made of polyacetate coated with photosensitive silver compounds.

I just googled and I can't find anywhere that says film is made with any kind of biological matter, never mind cows. Where did you get that from, tpg?
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: mikeymike on February 21, 2004, 05:49:49 PM
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I actually "rediscovered" the stars the other night. I was staring at them and I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I think I made out the Big Dipper, but I could be wrong. Punk sis thought I was being silly

Look, there's Uranus!   :-)

- edit - since moving up to Yorkshire the sky at night does look very different, due to lack of light reflecting into the sky, unlike in London.  I can't wait till the weather warms up so I can actually stop and look for a while without freezing my nuts off :)
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: that_punk_guy on February 21, 2004, 06:15:35 PM
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KennyR wrote:
Well, I suppose film could be part of cows - if cows were made of polyacetate coated with photosensitive silver compounds.

I just googled and I can't find anywhere that says film is made with any kind of biological matter, never mind cows. Where did you get that from, tpg?


I can't remember where I heard it first, but:

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For example, the Co-op is the only supermarket chain to state on camera film "Like all photographic film, contains animal ingredient - gelatine"


From the Co-Op (http://www.co-op.co.uk/ext_1/Development.nsf/0/923bbd35445996a600256a71002f9a26?OpenDocument) site.
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: sir_inferno on February 21, 2004, 09:32:40 PM
well of course, just remember, when you're tucking into a nice bowel of jelly, you're eating gelatin. Made form animal bones :-)
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: KennyR on February 21, 2004, 09:46:57 PM
Most jelly these days is made of carageenan, which comes from seaweed. So you have the choice of pig bone or seaweed jelly. MMMhhh good.
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: on February 21, 2004, 10:40:33 PM
The Kuiper belt should just be all mashed together into one big planet, and then tow it back to Earth so we can mine all the minerals out of it.

Us humans exist to plunder regions of resources! Whys stop with the Amazon?
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: that_punk_guy on February 21, 2004, 10:53:53 PM
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KennyR wrote:
Most jelly these days is made of carageenan, which comes from seaweed. So you have the choice of pig bone or seaweed jelly. MMMhhh good.


Depends which kind you buy. The powdered sachet stuff is usually carageenan, but the old-school stuff that comes in sticky, gooey blocks is still generally non-veggie.

Besides, seaweed's nice! Haven't you ever had Japanese rice-crackers? :-)
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: Doobrey on February 22, 2004, 03:17:48 AM
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that_punk_guy wrote:
I actually "rediscovered" the stars the other night. I was staring at them and I couldn't believe what I was seeing.


I know how you feel.
My sister bought a cheap 6" reflector telescope, and was brave enough to let me loose with it.
 After getting bored of looking at the moon, I tried to focus on a really bright star in the sky..but could never get it sharp.
 My sister asked what was wrong, and I pointed to the star and said I was getting a diagonal refraction across it.
 I felt such a prat when she told me that "star" was Venus, and the smeary line was it`s rings !! :oops:
  The best bit though, was looking into an a bit of the sky that looked completely empty to the naked eye. After a few secs of twiddling the eyepiece I was stunned..
 The view was just full of galaxies, totally surreal, just like the covers of some astronomy books that looks like a bad fake from Star Trek..
 I just stared for ages, it was just one of those moments where you realise just how insignificant all the crap in your life is.
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: that_punk_guy on February 22, 2004, 03:21:20 AM
Wow :-)

I've always wanted a telescope, but my mum put me off, by telling me I'd end up like Patrick Moore, with one eye bigger than the other. :lol:
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: KennyR on February 22, 2004, 01:14:44 PM
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Doobrey wrote:
My sister asked what was wrong, and I pointed to the star and said I was getting a diagonal refraction across it.
I felt such a prat when she told me that "star" was Venus, and the smeary line was it`s rings !!


Well, at least you can say that you're not the prat - Venus doesn't have rings. :-D
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: Doobrey on February 23, 2004, 01:06:29 AM
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KennyR wrote:
Well, at least you can say that you're not the prat - Venus doesn't have rings. :-D


 I know sweet FA about astronomy..
 I look upto the sky and point out " There`s the big saucepan, and over there the little saucepan"
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: blobrana on February 23, 2004, 03:34:21 AM
Yea,
That`s the good thing about astronomy...you don`t really need anything to appreciate the nite sky...(er, except eyes)...
But a nice pair of 7x50 binoculars do help...better than a fiddly scope, in your case...

And for a beginner they are very useful to learn your way around...
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: that_punk_guy on February 23, 2004, 03:40:08 AM
Not the best remedy for neck-cramps though, he he ;-)

/me reaches for his crappy binoculars
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: blobrana on February 23, 2004, 04:43:03 AM
A nice deck chair really helps...
Or, a mirror placed on the ground...(just look at the mirror, through the binoculars).

For those more technically minded, a `first surface`  silvered mirror is best, but i`ve had good results with a normal bathroom mirror, and binoculars fixed on to a tripod.

Take a look at the brightest `star` in the sky right now...
it`s jupiter, you should manage to see it`s four satellites easily...(they should be in a straight line).
 :-)
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: vortexau on February 23, 2004, 03:55:50 PM
" Everybody talks about a new world in the morning
New world in the morning, so they say
I myself don't talk about a new world in the morning
New world in the morning that's today.

And I can feel a new tomorrow coming on
And I don't know why I have to make a song
Everybody talks about a new world in the morning
New world in the morning takes so long.

I met a man who had a dream he had since he was twenty
I met that man when he was eighty one
He said too many folks just stand and wait until the morning.
Don't they know tomorrow never comes.

And he would feel a new tomorrow coming on
And when he smiled his eyes would twinkle up in fun
Everybody talks about a new world in the morning
New world in the morning never comes.

And I can feel a new tomorrow coming on.
And I don't know why I have to make a song
Everybody talks about a new world in the morning
New world in the morning takes so long."
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: bloodline on February 23, 2004, 04:23:05 PM
Amasing they can find a new planet at the edge of our Solar System, millions of miles across the vast emptiness of space.. but still no one an find Bill McEwan... :-?
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on February 23, 2004, 07:43:24 PM
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vortexau wrote:
Everybody talks about a new world in the morning
New world in the morning never comes.
Go early to bed and get up early. Serious! "De ochtendstond heeft goud in de mond"
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: KennyR on February 23, 2004, 08:00:50 PM
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Amasing they can find a new planet at the edge of our Solar System, millions of miles across the vast emptiness of space.. but still no one an find Bill McEwan...


eep (http://pulp.wrongpla.net/news/article78.html)
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: Wolfe on February 23, 2004, 11:26:56 PM
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KennyR wrote:
No Uranus jokes yet? No? Good. Keep it that way!


Well, we were waiting for Uranus to show up.  Now that you are here we can talk about it.   :lol:

Sorry KennyR but I could not resist and well, you did, Ur, light the way.   :oops:
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: Dan on February 24, 2004, 02:19:49 AM
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Go early to bed and get up early. Serious! "De ochtendstond heeft goud in de mond"

Gold??? :-?
It seems more like lead to me!
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on February 24, 2004, 10:11:26 AM
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Dan wrote:
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Go early to bed and get up early. Serious! "De ochtendstond heeft goud in de mond"

Gold??? :-?
It seems more like lead to me!
That's why I didn't translate it literally. I hoped a Dutchie would know an English equivalent to this.
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: sumner7 on February 27, 2004, 01:02:44 PM
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
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Dan wrote:
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Go early to bed and get up early. Serious! "De ochtendstond heeft goud in de mond"

Gold??? :-?
It seems more like lead to me!
That's why I didn't translate it literally. I hoped a Dutchie would know an English equivalent to this.


You and Odin are the only dutchies i've heard of on this site, Speelgoedmannetje. Isn't it ironic that you're also from the same town? Do you know each other outside amiga.org???
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on February 27, 2004, 04:06:14 PM
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sumner7 wrote:
You and Odin are the only dutchies i've heard of on this site, Speelgoedmannetje. Isn't it ironic that you're also from the same town? Do you know each other outside amiga.org???
There are a lot more Dutchies around here on Aorg, like Seer, Kees and Cymric. But no, I do not know Odin, though he's an ex-ICT student and I am an ICT student.
Groningen is a biiiiiiiiiiiiig city you know :lol:
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: Dan on February 27, 2004, 05:43:40 PM
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
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Dan wrote:
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Go early to bed and get up early. Serious! "De ochtendstond heeft goud in de mond"

Gold??? :-?
It seems more like lead to me!
That's why I didn't translate it literally. I hoped a Dutchie would know an English equivalent to this.

The only one I can come up with is "It´s the early bird that catches the worm"or something like that.
Since we have the same saying in swedish "Morgonstund har guld i mun.":-) as you do in Dutch, I assume that it´s  orginally a german saying.
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on February 27, 2004, 06:07:29 PM
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Dan wrote:
The only one I can come up with is "It´s the early bird that catches the worm"or something like that.
Since we have the same saying in swedish "Morgonstund har guld i mun.":-) as you do in Dutch, I assume that it´s  orginally a german saying.
Funny :-)

But that English one sounds so greedy.
The Dutch/Swedish/German one is much more alike 'The morning is filled with promises, filled with hope'
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: odin on February 27, 2004, 06:39:58 PM
Actually, isn't it 'Rise and shine, bunghole' in English? ;-)
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on February 27, 2004, 06:45:36 PM
Well, I know another one, 'Early to bed, early to rise, makes a men healthy, wealthy and wise'

but I rather like the 'Rise and shine'
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: sumner7 on February 28, 2004, 02:39:18 PM
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
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sumner7 wrote:
You and Odin are the only dutchies i've heard of on this site, Speelgoedmannetje. Isn't it ironic that you're also from the same town? Do you know each other outside amiga.org???
There are a lot more Dutchies around here on Aorg, like Seer, Kees and Cymric. But no, I do not know Odin, though he's an ex-ICT student and I am an ICT student.
Groningen is a biiiiiiiiiiiiig city you know :lol:


What is the population of Groningen, Speelgoedmannetje?
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: that_punk_guy on February 28, 2004, 02:43:25 PM
About 177,000? (http://www.groningen.nl/functies/pagfunctie.cfm?parameter=597)
Title: Re: New world found far beyond Pluto
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on February 28, 2004, 05:15:48 PM
Well, to be more exact:
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Groningen is the major city of the Northern Netherlands and, with a population of 179,000, the seventh largest city in the Netherlands.