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Title: The race is on!
Post by: T_Bone on February 20, 2004, 11:09:11 AM
Russia says they've developed a missile that will defeat any defense system.

http://www.reuters.com/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4398292 (http://www.reuters.com/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4398292)

This will probably promt the pentagon to ask for more money to beef up the $50 billion missile defense system.
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: blobrana on February 20, 2004, 12:10:41 PM
Yea, i think they don`t like the american defences system that is going to be developed...

One side escalates the ballance...(?)


But then again it may just be politics to persuade the americans to keep the status quo...After all ,can they afford it?

Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on February 20, 2004, 12:14:22 PM
So, anyone still got a penny for an ice-cream cone?
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: KennyR on February 20, 2004, 12:20:18 PM
I'd like to announce my new initiative. Called the Humanity Survival Defence Plan, it involves draining Loch Ness, gathering all militarists, throwing them into to the empty loch, then filling it in with many tons of concrete. The objective is that militarist ideas will be sealed for upwards of 50,000 years, protecting us from the harmful crackpot idea radiation that causes complications such as war, wasting money on arms races, and Mutual Assured Destruction plans.
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: that_punk_guy on February 20, 2004, 12:21:37 PM
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KennyR wrote:
I'd like to announce my new initiative. Called the Humanity Survival Defence Plan, it involves draining Loch Ness, gathering all militarists, throwing them into to the empty loch, then filling it in with many tons of concrete. The objective is that militarist ideas will be sealed for upwards of 50,000 years, protecting us from the harmful crackpot idea radiation that causes complications such as war, wasting money on arms races, and Mutual Assured Destruction plans.


But where will Nessy live?
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: blobrana on February 20, 2004, 12:31:45 PM
Hehe,
Nessie is made up to get the tourists to come...

It doesn`t really exist...(er, i think...)









Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: that_punk_guy on February 20, 2004, 12:34:29 PM
Well, first Santa Claus and baby Jesus... and now this. I don't think I can take much more!

Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: FluffyMcDeath on February 21, 2004, 12:51:00 AM
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KennyR wrote:
[...] Humanity Survival Defence Plan, it involves draining Loch Ness, gathering all militarists, throwing them into to the empty loch,


Do you really think it's big enough?
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: FluffyMcDeath on February 21, 2004, 12:57:28 AM
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T_Bone wrote:
Russia says they've developed a missile that will defeat any defense system.

http://www.reuters.com/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4398292 (http://www.reuters.com/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4398292)

This will probably promt the pentagon to ask for more money to beef up the $50 billion missile defense system.


Looks like Putin is gonna try and get the US to do a Soviet Union on itself. It's always cheaper to build a missile that will evade a missile defense system than it is to build the defense system.

US coffers are already dangerously depleted and stampeding Dumbya to spend more on a sheild could put the US over the edge. Putin would really like to have Iraq back and he's probably some P.O.ed at Bush.
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: Fade on February 21, 2004, 02:36:59 AM
@ FluffyMcDeath
"It's always cheaper to build a missile that will evade a missile defense system than it is to build the defense system."
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Here is what Russia thinks of their own  system (http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/88/350/12114_exercise.html).

But maybe Canada can help them out by selling them some of that great Canadian missile technology.

And then we can always refill our coffers by swaping US dollars for Canadian dollars. What's a Canadian dollar worth now? About 74 cents US.
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: FluffyMcDeath on February 21, 2004, 06:14:10 AM
@Fade

Non sequitur.
Non sequitur.
Non sequitur.

You're good at this.
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: Quixote on February 21, 2004, 01:06:48 PM
Komrad KennyR:
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...gathering all militarists, throwing them into to the empty loch,...
;-) You do realize that any force sufficient to compell "all militarists" would qualify as militarists themselves?  Logistically difficult, that.

:roll: Also qualifying as militarist is the mind that toys with rounding up whole segments of humanity.  Would you be the first in line to jump in the lake?
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: FluffyMcDeath on February 21, 2004, 05:18:37 PM
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Quixote wrote:

:roll: Also qualifying as militarist is the mind that toys with rounding up whole segments of humanity.  Would you be the first in line to jump in the lake?


You do realise that there are two kinds of people in this world. Me and everybody else.
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: Fade on February 21, 2004, 06:17:43 PM
"Here is what Russia thinks of their own system." = "Military makes fun out of President [Putin] by concealing from him the truth about sad state of Russian Army" Non sequitur? I think not.

"It's always cheaper to build a missile that will evade a missile defense system" = It's gotta work first; they keep falling in the ocean, that is, the ones that actually make it into the air. So they need to replace their technology with some of your advanced Canadian missile technology. Non sequitur? I think not.

"US coffers are already dangerously depleted" <= Canada can't even produce what Calif. does. Again, Non sequitur? I think not.
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"You're good at this."

Gratias habere
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: KennyR on February 21, 2004, 06:20:37 PM
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Quixote wrote:
You do realize that any force sufficient to compell "all militarists" would qulify as militarists themselves? Logistically difficult, that.


Use of force does not imply militarism. Militarism, however, always implies use of force.

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Also qualifying as militarist is the mind that toys with rounding up whole segments of humanity. Would you be the first in line to jump in the lake?


It's a loch. And no. I'd have to practice my goose step and buy a flag to qualify.
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: FluffyMcDeath on February 21, 2004, 07:56:00 PM
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Fade wrote:
Non sequitur? I think not.


Indeed it seems that you think not a great deal at all.
I have given you too much credit. You obviously have no idea what "non sequitur" means.
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: Fade on February 21, 2004, 08:39:16 PM
Don't know what it means in Canada, but in the rest of the world it means "does not follow".
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: sir_inferno on February 21, 2004, 09:02:19 PM
ahh, knowing the russians it'll probably rust in a day due to lack of funding...
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: FluffyMcDeath on February 21, 2004, 09:02:51 PM
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Fade wrote:
Don't know what it means in Canada, but in the rest of the world it means "does not follow".


Excellent. And now that you've looked it up, do you want to go back and try and make an argument that does follow?
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: sir_inferno on February 21, 2004, 09:10:45 PM
lol :-)
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: that_punk_guy on February 21, 2004, 11:11:51 PM
Zing! :-D

(Sorry, I just like saying "Zing.")

I'm done now.
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: on February 21, 2004, 11:20:08 PM
The American government is so paranoid that it'llmake a defence system for any supposed 'threat'. All that needs to happen now is for N.Korea to say they have a laser reflector on a sattelite, which always points at the U.S. , and they can zap any American location at anytime.

Bush will believe it, and spend lots of money building some kind of reflector shield over America XD
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: KennyR on February 21, 2004, 11:21:39 PM
I did it, I linked zing to this thread. See here (http://houseofzing.com/book/target.html).
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: that_punk_guy on February 21, 2004, 11:27:11 PM
Heh heh :-D
Title: Re: The race is on!
Post by: Argo on February 22, 2004, 12:13:00 AM
So, we shouldn't mention the Easter Bunny then. eh?