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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Software News => Topic started by: chris on October 23, 2017, 02:39:05 PM
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NetSurf is a small, fast, CSS-capable web browser for multiple platforms including AmigaOS.
NetSurf 3.7 features performance improvements, improved page layout, and many fixes. Also new is a treeview search feature, which allows Hotlist (Bookmarks), History and Cookies to be searched. We recommend all users upgrade to NetSurf 3.7.
Official downloads (http://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/) (AmigaOS 4 version)
AmigaOS3 beta version (http://aminet.net/comm/www/netsurf_os3.lha)
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Anything new in OS3.5/9 version? Requirements doesn't mention guigfx and render libraries anymore?
To prevent hasle, those should be mentioned if required. Another thing, you could include them to Netsurf archive. Guigfx requires that Netsurf readme mentions it and render library is prety much free to include.
guigfx
redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
are met:
1. redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
2. redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
3. all advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software
must display the following acknowledgement:
this product includes software developed by TEK neoscientists.
4. neither the name TEK neoscientists nor the names of its individual
contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from
this software without specific prior written permission.
Render library
license
render.library is released under the terms of a BSD-style
license. see COPYING for details. don't take it too serious,
there is no need to change texts in existing software.
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Good news for 68k users a new update of this browser.
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Anything new in OS3.5/9 version? Requirements doesn't mention guigfx and render libraries anymore?
It should mention them, didn't really look at the readme beyond correcting the version number.
New stuff is the same as other versions, I've not done anything special with the OS3 frontend.
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Good news for 68k users a new update of this browser.
Nice, beats waiting for 'Eyebrows'. :hammer:
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Works as always :)
Some speed has been lost. :( It takes about 50% more time to render amiga.org was 23 seconds, is now about 32-36 seconds. Amigaworld.net rendering time is about a same. It also seems to do something before and after page is loaded? About 5-10 seconds nothing happen in Netsurf information bar, no loading fetching etc. it just seems to wait something and same when page is loaded/displayed. With this effect it feels much slower than it used to be.
I also get one guru when I changet from amiga.org to amigaworld, but I couldn't reproduce it. Previously Netsurf has been very stable here.
Tested with both machines and several times.
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Some speed has been lost. :( It takes about 50% more time to render amiga.org was 23 seconds, is now about 32-36 seconds. Amigaworld.net rendering time is about a same. It also seems to do something before and after page is loaded? About 5-10 seconds nothing happen in Netsurf information bar, no loading fetching etc. it just seems to wait something and same when page is loaded/displayed. With this effect it feels much slower than it used to be.
I don't know why that would be. I can't think of anything that has changed which would cause that. The log file might provide a clue.
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I don't know why that would be. I can't think of anything that has changed which would cause that. The log file might provide a clue.
This message is repeated some 100x times and takes 72 second to move on?
(180.004997) frontends/amiga/font_diskfont.c:58 ami_font_bm_open: (using current font)
This one only few times
(122.027104) frontends/amiga/font_diskfont.c:102 ami_font_bm_open: font: helvetica.font/12
Starts (121.790181)
Ends (193.876583)
Same message starts again (201.677977) and ends (227.279296) users over 100 seconds to open same font when logging? That message is about 50% of all messages.
Fix fonts is of course runned when installed
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This message is repeated some 100x times and takes 72 second to move on?
(180.004997) frontends/amiga/font_diskfont.c:58 ami_font_bm_open: (using current font)
This one only few times
(122.027104) frontends/amiga/font_diskfont.c:102 ami_font_bm_open: font: helvetica.font/12
Starts (121.790181)
Ends (193.876583)
Same message starts again (201.677977) and ends (227.279296) users over 100 seconds to open same font when logging?
It's doing layout, that "opening same font" is just a message, when that appears that function isn't actually doing anything.
It could well be the logging slowing it down, I don't know how it works so it could be doing processing that it wasn't before.
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How about this :
(31.495984) frontends/amiga/gui.c:3733 amiga_window_invalidate_area: Ignoring duplicate or subset of queued box redraw
It ends (33.325507) starts again (88.770177) and ends (92.919132)
(43.001307) content/llcache.c:1499 llcache_process_metadata: metadata error on line 3 error code 18
Same error about 30 times
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NetSurf is a small, fast, CSS-capable web browser for multiple platforms including AmigaOS.
NetSurf 3.7 features performance improvements, improved page layout, and many fixes. Also new is a treeview search feature, which allows Hotlist (Bookmarks), History and Cookies to be searched. We recommend all users upgrade to NetSurf 3.7.
Official downloads (http://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/) (AmigaOS 4 version)
AmigaOS3 beta version (http://aminet.net/comm/www/netsurf_os3.lha)
Thank you for the new version!
A few sites are more compatible then 3.6.
But two sites don't come past the 'accept cookies button' (Javascript)
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How about this :
(31.495984) frontends/amiga/gui.c:3733 amiga_window_invalidate_area: Ignoring duplicate or subset of queued box redraw
It ends (33.325507) starts again (88.770177) and ends (92.919132)
That's to do with the redraw, it's doing layouting between those times, the actual redraw happens afterwards. The message means the area the core wants to redraw is already going to be redrawn, so it is being ignored to avoid unnecessary processing/flickering (when it gets to the point of actually redrawing).
(43.001307) content/llcache.c:1499 llcache_process_metadata: metadata error on line 3 error code 18
Same error about 30 times
Something to do with the disk cache, delete the cache directory and it should clear this.
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Thank you for the new version!
A few sites are more compatible then 3.6.
But two sites don't come past the 'accept cookies button' (Javascript)
Javascript buttons still don't work. Something to do with event code bindings, don't have a clue what is missing here because most of the event code stuff seems to be in place!
Note that the lack of a dynamic layout engine means the message probably wouldn't disappear even if the buttons worked. The layout engine is the main reason for missing Javascript functionality.
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I have lha version 2.12 and it gives me an error when I try to decompress the file "*** Error on file 'AutoInstall' : Unknown compression (need newer LHA version)". I see a version 2.15, but the changelog didn't say anything about adding a new compression type. What version of LHA is needed to decompress the archive?
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I have lha version 2.12 and it gives me an error when I try to decompress the file "*** Error on file 'AutoInstall' : Unknown compression (need newer LHA version)". I see a version 2.15, but the changelog didn't say anything about adding a new compression type. What version of LHA is needed to decompress the archive?
OS3.5/9 unarchiver should do the job. No need to use lha command.
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OS3.5/9 unarchiver should do the job. No need to use lha command.
Correct did that on OS3.9 and worked flawless.
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Javascript buttons still don't work. Something to do with event code bindings, don't have a clue what is missing here because most of the event code stuff seems to be in place!
Note that the lack of a dynamic layout engine means the message probably wouldn't disappear even if the buttons worked. The layout engine is the main reason for missing Javascript functionality.
Ok, thans for your answer. Hopefully there is some fix possible...
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Ok, thans for your answer. Hopefully there is some fix possible...
It will come in time...
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Correct did that on OS3.9 and worked flawless.
Apologies for this. I would have re-compressed the archive but had completely forgotten it didn't work with the (Amiga) command-line LhA tool.
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Hey Chris! Nice job on this. I have been running it for a couple days now on the X5000 with little complaints. The one thing that drives me nuts is the fonts. Is there a way to make them a bit more friends on the eyes? The default looks kinda bad.
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Hey Chris! Nice job on this. I have been running it for a couple days now on the X5000 with little complaints. The one thing that drives me nuts is the fonts. Is there a way to make them a bit more friends on the eyes? The default looks kinda bad.
You can configure them in the Fonts tab in settings. What's wrong with the defaults?
You might need to correct the DPI value too, which is under Rendering.
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Hi there,
CONGRATULATIONS :laughing:
this new Version is a lot better than others , here I´m Posting from Amiga 500!! with Vampire inside (of course :ak47:) and is awesome.
Also I can get Facebook in Netsurf 3.7 and Gmail without problems! in AMIGA 500 cant believed
A big Thank you for keep support and update this great browser!
Please continue with the great work!
Regards
Amiten
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Can you tell how longtakes render amiga.org with Netsurf and Vampire. That would tell practical performance diffrence to 68060 cpu. Previous version rendered amiga.org 23 seconds, this version 31 seconds.
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Thanks Chris.
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Typing in the message window at amiga.org and characters disappear as I type towards the right. After I hit enter key, the line looks ok.
If I set anti-aliasing off in the fonts preferences, the charaters appear normal as I type.
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I get a guru with this version :-(
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Chris could you compile new beta Netsurf to your homepage (unsatisfacrysoftware.co.uk)current is 2dn of june.
I noticed that you have removed lgging from 68k vesion five days ago? I'm interested to know does it make difference?
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I get a guru with this version :-(
Not very helpfull. Run netsurf from shell netsurf -v *>ram:ns_log.txt etc and send log to Chris and tell what kind of amiga you have? Remember add some stack to it before you run it.
Do you have guigfx and render libraries installed?
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Yeah sorry about that.
Previous versions work.
A1200 030/50 64MB
OS3.1
guigfx 17.1
renderlib (68020) 30.0
stack 131072
Needs newer diskfont lib - done
a banch of gadgets - upgraded
layout.gadget needs version 0?!?!?
I have 45, no luck from here.
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layout.gadget needs version 0?!?!?
I have 45, no luck from here.
It actually requests v43.
Is NetSurf saying it can't open it, or is that message coming from elsewhere?
Oh, just noticed you have OS3.1. You'll need OS3.5 minimum. You can try upgrading individual components but that's unsupported and untested.
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I noticed that you have removed lgging from 68k vesion five days ago? I'm interested to know does it make difference?
I removed one log message, that's all.
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Typing in the message window at amiga.org and characters disappear as I type towards the right. After I hit enter key, the line looks ok.
If I set anti-aliasing off in the fonts preferences, the charaters appear normal as I type.
Never seen that before. I take it this is on OS4?
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Thought it could run on 3.1
I'll stick with the old version and I'll try the new on another machine.
Thanks.
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Yes. AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 1 on MicroA1.
I am using default theme (but changed the NetSurf icon to the AISS style icon) and default preferences.
Maybe I should try a different screen resolution. Recently switched from CRT screen to LCD display.
So far, I only have this issue when posting from amiga.org. ... amigaworld is ok.
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Yes. AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 1 on MicroA1.
I am using default theme (but changed the NetSurf icon to the AISS style icon) and default preferences.
Maybe I should try a different screen resolution. Recently switched from CRT screen to LCD display.
So far, I only have this issue when posting from amiga.org. ... amigaworld is ok.
I'll double-check but amiga.org was OK last time I tried.