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Title: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: XDelusion on December 02, 2011, 09:01:56 PM
Alright, so I'm playing through Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis under MorphOS (talkie version).

I am at an old Nazi dig site and am stranded on an Island. Sophia was just kidnapped by the Nazi's etc. etc. etc.

I have a basket, fishing net, but need the balloon.

Anyhow, when I try to use the Sundisc on the door at the dig site, no matter what I align it to, it does not work.

I hate to cheat, but I went to Gamefaqs and had a look at this guide, but....


It don't freakin' work! :/

http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/562678-indiana-jones-and-the-fate-of-atlantis/faqs/25282


Any ideas?
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: Ancalimon on December 02, 2011, 09:26:07 PM
Where exactly are you? screenshot?

Maybe you need to use more than a sunstone?
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: DonutKing on December 03, 2011, 02:09:07 AM
It's been a very long time since I played this (the DOS version no less) but are you pressing down on the thing in the centre of the disk once its aligned? from memory I kinda got confused at that part because it wasn't immediately apparent that you had to press down on it once its aligned.

You should have a book in your inventory and it should have a quote about sunstones and the colony, I think it changes on every playthrough, what does your say?

As you can probably tell from my avatar I'm a bit of a lucasarts fanboy :)
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: CritAnime on December 03, 2011, 02:32:17 AM
While I can't remember the exact solution donutking is right that you need to press the spindle in the middle. Its not a simple case of just aligning the disks. Also depending on which playstyle you go for I am sure that puzzle changes. So an faq might not be the best solution. Read any books and clues again. Also post screenies of clues if possible.
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: XDelusion on December 03, 2011, 10:55:43 PM
Pushed the button. Here's the pics.
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: Ancalimon on December 03, 2011, 11:29:56 PM
Are you playing the Wits path ? Sophia did not come with you if you played the Wits path. How can she be kidnapped?

As far as I remember you needed the ballon if you played the Wits path.


After pressing the spindle do you hear a "click" sound.  If you do, open the door.  (if that's the place I remember)...  After you take what's inside, don't forget your SunStone.

Also you may need to close the lid of that crate you see there for the balloon
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: XDelusion on December 03, 2011, 11:30:35 PM
Quote from: FaLLeNOnE;670099
Are you playing the Wits path ? Sophia did not came with you if you played the Wits path. How can she be kidnapped?


Fists.
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: Ancalimon on December 03, 2011, 11:39:53 PM
Are you in Thera? (you went there after Girit)
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: XDelusion on December 03, 2011, 11:55:48 PM
I'm not at home right now. Off the top of my head I can tell you this.

I raced around the desert, found the Nazi Dig site, left there, flew to an island which I am now deserted on. I am apparently collecting pieces for a flying balloon, and there is another Nazi dig sight where in I am trying to figure out the Sundisc puzzle.
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: Ancalimon on December 04, 2011, 12:00:09 AM
Heh :)

You are in Crete. (but I don't remember a balloon)

As far as I remember you need both the Sunstone and another stone to open that door.

you did some kind of surveying using some kind of instrument to find an X and you found the moonstone there. (it was about some bull statue's head and its horns)
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: XDelusion on December 04, 2011, 12:10:27 AM
Quote from: FaLLeNOnE;670105
Heh :)

You are in Crete. (but I don't remember a balloon)

As far as I remember you need both the Sunstone and another stone to open that door.

you did some kind of surveying using some kind of instrument to find an X and you found the moonstone there. (it was about some bull statue's head and its horns)



Are you sure you are not thinking of the desert? The part where you get a map with an X on it to find the Nazi dig site that had the Sun Disc?

That's where I was before where I'm at now.

I'll look around the island and see if there is some place I could be digging.
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: Ancalimon on December 04, 2011, 12:17:26 AM
no..  you found a surveying equipment when you crossed a bridge and went to the leftmost side of the screen.  You used that equipment on a bulls head, and placed it somewhere.  After that you aligned it to the horns of the bull.  The two lines gave you an x and you dug that X using something.
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: XDelusion on December 04, 2011, 12:30:30 AM
Never seen any of this.

SPOILERS SPOILERS!!! :)

Did you see my pics above?
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: Ancalimon on December 04, 2011, 12:46:10 AM
this is where you should be I think.. running away from all those Nazis in Algiers :)   I don't remember the picture you posted.

If not, I hope someone can help you :D
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: XDelusion on December 04, 2011, 12:47:27 AM
Quote from: FaLLeNOnE;670115
this is where you should be I think.. running away from all those Nazis in Algiers :)   I don't remember the picture you posted.

If not, I hope someone can help you :D

I'm in here! :)

(http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/330599-indiana-jones-and-the-fate-of-atlantis-dos-screenshot-it-looks.png)

(http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/330600-indiana-jones-and-the-fate-of-atlantis-dos-screenshot-exploring.png)
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: Matt_H on December 04, 2011, 04:00:09 AM
Can't quite recall, but I think you need to find the Moonstone somewhere on Thera, then use both disks.
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: mailman on December 04, 2011, 07:13:01 AM
Looking at the pictures I say you are on Thera but looking in your inventory I say that you haven't been on Crete since you don't have important objects.

There are several dig sites in the game. The first one is in the desert. There is a truck which you have to make running. I guess you have been there since you have a hose. Did you make the truck running? If yes, then you are not playing Fists Path. If no, then you are playing Fists Path and it seems to be that you flew into the wrong direction and ended up on the wrong island.

Another dig site is on Crete. It's huge, much bigger than the previous one. There are bull horns, the bridge. Were you here - http://www.mobygames.com/game/amiga/indiana-jones-and-the-fate-of-atlantis/screenshots/gameShotId,282641 (shot 23) or here - http://www.mobygames.com/game/amiga/indiana-jones-and-the-fate-of-atlantis/screenshots/gameShotId,282642/ (shot 24)?
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: DonutKing on December 04, 2011, 10:43:49 AM
Hmmm I think you are at Thera too.

Have you tried lining the sundisk up correctly (so in your case sunset is at the top according to the book), pushing in the spindle, then removing the disk from the spindle before trying the door?

I think it says nothing happened- but now if you try the door it opens
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: BinoX on December 04, 2011, 02:53:14 PM
That is indeed Thera, I've not long finished playing through...

Here's what you do (based on your Dialogue of Plato):

Put the sunstone on the spindle, put the setting sun at the top by the horns, push the spindle, open the door WITHOUT removing the sunstone, pick up the statue, close the door and then pick up the sunstone.
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: mailman on December 04, 2011, 03:22:10 PM
Quote from: BinoX;670169
That is indeed Thera, I've not long finished playing through...

Here's what you do (based on your Dialogue of Plato):

Put the sunstone on the spindle, put the setting sun at the top by the horns, push the spindle, open the door WITHOUT removing the sunstone, pick up the statue, close the door and then pick up the sunstone.


I think you are describing a completely different location.
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: BinoX on December 04, 2011, 03:32:07 PM
I was basing the location off this picture: http://www.amiga.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1784&d=1322952748

Although, it may not be a statue.. but there's something in there that can be picked up anyway
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: mailman on December 04, 2011, 07:28:24 PM
OK, I see.
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: XDelusion on December 05, 2011, 01:57:35 AM
Something like this, at 9:30, but the "Klick" don't happen.

I think tonight I shall try to transfer my save file to Windows and try it on the official version. Perhaps this might be a bug with the MorphOS port? I know the AROS version is a wreck, so maybe this still has a bug or two left as well? I really don't see what I'm missing here!

[youtube]mi20RuOMy1Q[/youtube]
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: mailman on December 05, 2011, 07:16:17 AM
Quote from: XDelusion;670245
Something like this, at 9:30, but the "Klick" don't happen.


Each round of the game the alignment is different so no one can tell you how to align the stones. You have to try with help of Plato's Dialogues (indeed they give all the necessary clues). Anyhow, there is not so many combination so you can try all of them. Important is that the alignment of the stones is the same throughout the whole game. Meaning that if Sunstone only was aligned in one position, this position has to be aligned during the whole game in a very much the same way. And there are no half positions. Remember also to use the spindle after the alignment.

It would helpful if you could show us screens of you Plato's Dialogue (and stones during the alignment). I think we could figure out the alignment.
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: Ancalimon on December 05, 2011, 07:22:59 AM
see what happens between 8.00 and 8.20 .   Maybe that should happen (and the entrance to cave should collapse) before you can open the door?
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: XDelusion on December 05, 2011, 07:51:44 PM
Quote from: mailman;670274
Each round of the game the alignment is different so no one can tell you how to align the stones. You have to try with help of Plato's Dialogues (indeed they give all the necessary clues). Anyhow, there is not so many combination so you can try all of them. Important is that the alignment of the stones is the same throughout the whole game. Meaning that if Sunstone only was aligned in one position, this position has to be aligned during the whole game in a very much the same way. And there are no half positions. Remember also to use the spindle after the alignment.

It would helpful if you could show us screens of you Plato's Dialogue (and stones during the alignment). I think we could figure out the alignment.


I did post pics of my Plato's Lost Dialog. It reads the same every time I load up the game and try this.

Look through my previous posts here.
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: Ancalimon on December 05, 2011, 08:03:09 PM
Read my post above. I think that's your answer.
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: mailman on December 05, 2011, 08:40:23 PM
In your case, Sunset alignment should be at the top. Moonstone should be aligned so the new moon is also on the top. Unless I'm wrong. But I think Fallenone has the point.
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: XDelusion on December 05, 2011, 09:20:24 PM
The cave did collapse.

Also in this demonstration the players relies only on the sun disc, but I'll watch the video again, maybe he used a moon stone and I somehow missed it? All I know is that I do not possess a moon stone, I'm stuck on this island, and I can not backtrack.
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: XDelusion on December 06, 2011, 05:40:20 AM
Aghh well what do you know....

O.K. JUST before he enters the cave (where I am) the player closed the lid on the box sitting outside. Stuck to the lid was the letter needed to get the balloon!

Also, before when I watched this video, I would turn it off as soon as he adjusted the sun disk and you hear the "KLIK" sound, as I did not want to see any spoilers.

Well as it turns out, in this guy's experience, it reveals a sign written in some ancient dialog...

...but when I played, that sign was there from the get go. How strange.

Anyhow, all I needed was to get the balloon, put it together, fill it with air, and I'm off the island.

Apparently this game does not play the same way, regardless of what path you pick because the guy in this video and I have both apparently chosen the same path, but the results were slightly different.

I was wrong on one thing though, like the guy in this video, I found my sun disk in a street drain, not at the Nazi Dig site.

At the Nazi dig site I found that statue that allowed me to start up the truck.


Anyhow, I'm back into the game again, and for those who have not played it, or have only played the old Amiga non-talkie version, I HIGHLY suggest you bust out ScummVM on MorphOS, or OS 4 or AROS if it is polished enough, and play this sucker!!!! It totally compensates for the lack luster movie that we were recently treated with.
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: DonutKing on December 06, 2011, 05:51:16 AM
Quote from: XDelusion;670425

Anyhow, I'm back into the game again, and for those who have not played it, or have only played the old Amiga non-talkie version, I HIGHLY suggest you bust out ScummVM on MorphOS, or OS 4 or AROS if it is polished enough, and play this sucker!!!! It totally compensates for the lack luster movie that we were recently treated with.


Definitely! It's a great game. If you're playing under SCUMMVM make sure you set it up with MT32 music, you are really missing out otherwise :)
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: Ancalimon on December 06, 2011, 06:09:34 AM
Quote from: DonutKing;670426
Definitely! It's a great game. If you're playing under SCUMMVM make sure you set it up with MT32 music, you are really missing out otherwise :)


Using a good sound font is a much better option in my opinion.

This is the best one I could find that really suits ScummVM and Dos games: http://www.geocities.jp/shansoundfont/
Title: Re: Indy Jones Fate Atlantis Sun Disk?
Post by: XDelusion on December 06, 2011, 06:15:24 AM
Quote from: DonutKing;670426
Definitely! It's a great game. If you're playing under SCUMMVM make sure you set it up with MT32 music, you are really missing out otherwise :)

From the Docs of Fab's port of ScummVM:

"This is a MorphOS build of ScummVM 1.4.0, requiring PowerSDL 14.x or later.

Note: The MT32 emulation seems to be broken since 1.2.0. I haven't figured out why yet, unfortunately.

If you encounter any issue, contact me at: ..."


So thank you FallenOne for this advice, I'll have to check into this Sound Font business! Maybe that will restore musick to those few games that are missing it.


And here's a working link to compliment his broken one. ;)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=v5ynbfro