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« Reply #134 from previous page: May 06, 2002, 05:04:45 AM »
and the power4 also has 8 processor cores...is the size of a baseball.uses 500watts of power....and costs more then a human clone.its not to say it isnt good engineering..but its over engineering..theirs no way any of us WILL EVER see a power4 sitting on a desktop.
and it should beat intel and alpha..considering they both use 1 processor core...1!!!! DERRR 1!!!!!....and both of them run on the desktop useing what? at most maybe 25 watts?...compared to 500 watts...
price of a Alpha bieng maybe 1000$ for the top of the line retail...price of the intel bieng what? 500$ top of the line...not to mention cost of running it....or cost of maintaining it...

the only thing FUD and 'pure crap' is your little ignorant rant....


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« Reply #135 on: May 06, 2002, 05:23:24 AM »
http://www.extremetech.com/article/0,3396,apn=12&s=1005&a=23093&app=10&ap=11,00.asp    and heres a little for you..from a slightly more noteable site..explaining how wonderful and also how stupid it is to assume that you will have that cpu on your desktop.
 

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« Reply #136 on: May 06, 2002, 05:37:23 AM »
mips_proc maybe you should read up on facts before spreading bad gossip...

http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/pseries/hardware/whitepapers/power4.html

"explaining how wonderful and also how stupid it is to assume that you will have that cpu on your desktop."

Oh and I never said anything about the POWER4 being run on the desktop, that was your silly assumption... and you know what they say about assumptions!


'nuff said

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« Reply #137 on: May 06, 2002, 05:55:15 AM »
you compared a power4(a 5000$+ dollar 8processor core half a killowat swallowing mainframe CPU) with a 32bitP4? or the now obselete Alpha? and say 'Gee look it beats the Alpha its only 7 cores and 475 watts and 4000$ more expensive but it beats it'!!! WOW the power4...maybe the Power5 will use a whole kilowat and we can start useing metric drug slang with our processors.
 

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« Reply #138 on: May 06, 2002, 06:04:59 AM »
I didn't compare anything, that was the people who done the article and the folks who gave the award.  Go whine to them and the POWER4 actually has 2 processor cores not 8.  And if you're speaking on power efficiency, you wouldn't be touting the x86 over the PPC since we all know how inefficient the x86 really is on power consumptions, especially for mobile computing solutions!
 

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« Reply #139 on: May 06, 2002, 06:24:15 AM »
Actually, Power4 is more than a processor, it's an entire neighborhood of processors. It's sold as a module comprising two processor cores per die, and four die per module, making eight 64-bit processors and 680 million transistors in one unit. Each individual die contains 174 millions transistors and measures a sun-blocking 400 mm2 in IBM's 0.18-micron 7-layer copper process.

 thats a quote from extremetech.com '8 processors' ....
 

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« Reply #140 on: May 06, 2002, 06:28:58 AM »
so you think a 500watt cpu is an efficent processor?
if so thats pretty funny...so 'ppc' and mobile computeing....1 companys apple...makes what? 4 laptops that use PPC?...and cost how much?....hahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha i'll take my crap riddled x86 anyday
 

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« Reply #141 on: May 06, 2002, 06:32:31 AM »
That part I understand.  I didn't argue the point of them implementing multiple CPUs together.  Intel's Itanium CPU is also 64 bit as well.
 

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« Reply #142 on: May 06, 2002, 06:36:50 AM »
"hahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha i'll take my crap riddled x86 anyday"

Yeah you can have your 1 1/2 battery life performance wonder and a under performing mobile chip that has been down tuned to be somewhat power efficient.  I'll take my Powerbook G4 over that over glorified paperweight anyday!!!


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« Reply #143 on: May 06, 2002, 06:54:27 AM »
intel's itanium is a beta CPU...and it has 1 core 1 processor...you seem to think the power4  somehow competes in the same class as those other cpu's? i guess your both a zealot and ignorant.
 

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« Reply #144 on: May 06, 2002, 06:59:10 AM »
No it's you being uninformed and ignorant!  No I think all the Amigans will agree that you're a pure zealot and only here to spread pure FUD about!!!
 

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« Reply #145 on: May 06, 2002, 07:28:47 AM »
hahahahah resort to name calling when ignorance shines through where zealous behavior and false
information dont....
 

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Re: PPC is bad bad bad
« Reply #146 on: May 06, 2002, 07:36:13 AM »
Maybe you should follow your own philosophy for once!
 

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« Reply #147 on: May 06, 2002, 08:59:42 AM »
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« Reply #148 on: May 06, 2002, 09:38:48 AM »
>> and it should beat intel and alpha..considering
>> they both use 1 processor core

That's already done, the POWER4 beats by a large margin every other processor in SPEC benchmarks (which uses only one of the 8 avaible cores, so that's single processor performance) plus it scales wonderfully (one thing that Intel processors never did and probably never will).
 

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« Reply #149 on: May 06, 2002, 10:02:37 AM »
it's still rediculis to compare a 8 processor core cpu(wich does use all processor cores this isnt SMP)
to anything of lower classes....what if we compare the Power4 to the G4? ....the Power4 is in a class by itself really and no other CPU can even touch it because of its unique design ...its a powerful chip...but you cant compare Cray's to PC's or Amiga's to Power4's or anything like that...its an industrial processor...its ignorant to compare them...only a person who really didnt know what the Power4 was would compare it to anything else...its insane.