C64 Basic Upgrade

[trekiej]

Outside of a cartridge expansion is there a way to upgrade Commodore Basic on a C64.
I guess a disk with compiler would be better but how about a rom?

[trekiej]

My heart goes out to the Plus/4 but a Basic upgrade for the C64 would have been a better computer. The Plus/4 has Basic 3.5 and the C128 had the 7.0 Basic.
I have the Super Expander on Vice X64 and maybe Simons Basic. I hear that Simons has more memory.
how does Jiffy Dos compare. I guess is gives the C64 better Algorithms for faster disk access ,etc.
Later.
edit
thanks for the links

[trekiej]

I got a text file for the C64 Super Expander and I like it better than Simons Basic.
I could not get Sim' Basic to go into high res. I do not know how to run it well I guess.
I guess there is no replacement rom for the C64 to give it a better version of Basic.
A cartridge with a better basic and more memory would be great. (128k)
Later.

[trekiej]

Interesting.
An REU with a rom socket and/or cart. port would be cool.
I think CMD had a socket for rom/ram.

[trekiej]

Solution:
A Basic Compiler on disk.

[trekiej]

Well I do have Power C on D64.
It uses C99.
edit:
Basic is great for doing some quick programming.
The programmer could make a quick analysis of some data.

[trekiej]

C for the C64 has not received much good press here.
Maybe this link will help.
http://www.lyonlabs.org/commodore/powerc.html

Sorry, I was just playing.  I couldn't resist it.  I first learned to code using Basic on my Plus/4 as a kid so I have fond memories of it.

I might have to have a look at Power C, sounds interesting.

How is compilation speed?  I imagine it would be quite slow given the CPU and RAM constraints.

[trekiej]

C99 came out in 1999, has Power C been updated?
 
It's more likely to be C89 but here http://www.lyonlabs.org/commodore/powerc.html it suggests using K&R style arguments to functions, which I'd find a major pain.

Oops.
It does say pre-Ansi.

[trekiej]

TECHNICALLY all but two bytes are accessible.  $00 and $01 are on-chip registers on the 6510.

Whoa, that is really deep!