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Re: Shapeshifter. Best mac os for 030?
« Reply #74 from previous page: May 31, 2011, 12:09:07 PM »
Quote from: Xanxi;641511
060 cpu do have a mmu on amiga or they can't work with amiga os.

MmuEvd uses the mmu of course.


Huh? the 000/010/020 doesn't have a MMU and not all 030s either AFAIK. MacOS requires a MMU but not AmigaOS.
 

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Re: Shapeshifter. Best mac os for 030?
« Reply #75 on: May 31, 2011, 12:47:46 PM »
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Huh? the 000/010/020 doesn't have a MMU and not all 030s either AFAIK. MacOS requires a MMU but not AmigaOS.



I'm speaking about 68040 and 68060. Those CPU need a MMU on the amiga or won't work for long past the kickstart screen.

Otherwise, i have here a nice new 68EC060 80 MHz. Feel free to buy it from me for 100 EUR :D
« Last Edit: May 31, 2011, 12:52:00 PM by Xanxi »
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Re: Shapeshifter. Best mac os for 030?
« Reply #76 on: May 31, 2011, 11:29:20 PM »
Before this thread gets any further off topic discussing if 060's in Amiga's must have an MMU or not, can someone please point me to a location to find this "MmuEvd" software that is supposed to be so great for helping an A1200/060 run Shapeshifter on AGA?

I tried to Google it and only found this thread and nothing else that was related to the Amiga, or Mac emulation.
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Re: Shapeshifter. Best mac os for 030?
« Reply #77 on: June 01, 2011, 12:25:53 AM »
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Before this thread gets any further off topic discussing if 060's in Amiga's must have an MMU or not, can someone please point me to a location to find this "MmuEvd" software that is supposed to be so great for helping an A1200/060 run Shapeshifter on AGA?


Try an aminet search for MuEVD and MuLib.
 

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Re: Shapeshifter. Best mac os for 030?
« Reply #78 on: June 01, 2011, 01:45:14 AM »
AmigaDave, did you read this post?  All of the Mu(insert ending here) are in this one package.  Do you have me on your ignore list or something?

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Well, found out that 7.6.1 was never released "into the wild," so am sourcing a solution elsewhere.

Also, for the myved etc etc, I think the easiest solution is to download the whole shebang here:

http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/MMULib#contents

This has all of it, plus a handy dandy install script and the full set of documentation, which is a good read.
 

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Re: Shapeshifter. Best mac os for 030?
« Reply #79 on: July 02, 2011, 02:26:46 PM »
The Graffiti card will increase the video output significally, but therefore you need to switch off MuFastZero. It works even faster with Fusion than with Shapeshifter. Im using it with ACA1230@56Mhz and I am really impressed.

Quote from: Cammy;609490
If anyone would like to try Shapeshifter on their Amiga, I have gone to the effort of mounting and installing all the disk images for OS 7.6 as well as the 7.6.1 updates and all the other updates available, including the later Appearance Manager extension which makes OS7 look like OS8. These are all official Apple updates and are freely available on their site, along with the disk images for the OS, but I have installed it all and packaged the harddrive file for anyone else to try.

http://home.exetel.com.au/~amiga/MacOS7.6.1.zip

All you need to run it on a sufficiently expanded 020-060 Amiga are:

ShapeShifter 3.11 - http://aminet.net/package/misc/emu/ShapeShifter
MuEVD - http://aminet.net/package/misc/emu/MuEVD
MuFastZero - http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/MuFastZero
VirtualLink - http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/vlink

Here are the recommended ROM and OS for each CPU type:

Best ROM Images

68000: Mac Se
68020: Mac LC
68030: Mac LC III
68040: Quadra 650
68060: Quadra 650

Best OS Versions

68000: 6.0.8
68020: 7.1.1
68030: 7.6.1
68040: 8.1
68060: 8.1

This forum has further help with Mac ROMs - http://nbbemulation.free.fr/forum_ma...opic.php?id=69

Remember: You can play games like Warcraft II, Links Pro Golf, Settlers II, Prince of Persia II and other cool games and sequels that weren't released on the Amiga, all in 640x480 in 256 colours! With the AMAZING MuEVD video driver, these games are totally playable on a 030 AGA machine.
 

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Re: Shapeshifter. Best mac os for 030?
« Reply #80 on: September 22, 2011, 12:26:39 AM »
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which version of photoshop is ?
where I Can download it?
thanks


http://www.amberdean.com/68kp/software.html
 

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Re: Shapeshifter. Best mac os for 030?
« Reply #81 on: September 22, 2011, 03:01:04 AM »
Quote from: Cammy;618868
Please try replacing PrepareEmul with these:

MuEVD - http://aminet.net/package/misc/emu/MuEVD
MuFastZero - http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/MuFastZero

Your Startup-Sequence after C:SetPatch QUIET should have these lines added:

C:MuMove4k PrepareEmul A1200
C:MuFastZero On

Making sure you have installed all the files to C: and Libs:

Cammy,

C:MuMove4k PrepareEmul A1200

causes my computer not to boot.

C:MuMove4k A1200

works though... what do you think that means?

Photoshop 4.0 runs surprisingly well for a 40mhz 030.

Thanks for figuring this all out!

I found this to be a good resource for getting applications for the mac...

http://www.amberdean.com/68kp/software.html

I was having a hard time figuring out how to get them on my mac partition.

I just downloaded all the files from that page and burned them to a CD.

Now I have vlink.device set up so I can FTP with transmit.

-nate
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Re: Shapeshifter. Best mac os for 030?
« Reply #82 on: September 22, 2011, 05:51:28 AM »
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AmigaDave, did you read this post?  All of the Mu(insert ending here) are in this one package.  Do you have me on your ignore list or something?

No, not ignoring you, but with several people spelling the package differently (some use Mmu, Mu, Mv, mym, etc.) it's a bit confusing, and being away for most of the last 10 weeks (4 weeks working in Hawaii and another 4 weeks on a 3,700+ mile road trip), I have missed a lot of posts on many forum sites.

Thanks for the info, I will get it downloaded and installed soon.  (I have lots of projects going right now and must prepare for the AmiWest 2011 Show)
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Re: Shapeshifter. Best mac os for 030?
« Reply #83 on: September 22, 2011, 08:49:21 AM »
Quote from: Xanxi;641522
I'm speaking about 68040 and 68060. Those CPU need a MMU on the amiga or won't work for long past the kickstart screen.

Otherwise, i have here a nice new 68EC060 80 MHz. Feel free to buy it from me for 100 EUR :D


AFAIK that would depend on 68040.library used, as it was explained in other thread the cache control registers can be configured to avoid using cache in some memory areas so MMU wouldn't be mandatory.
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Re: Shapeshifter. Best mac os for 030?
« Reply #84 on: September 22, 2011, 09:36:51 AM »
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Cammy,
C:MuMove4k PrepareEmul A1200
causes my computer not to boot.

C:MuMove4k A1200
works though... what do you think that means?


Have you removed the original prepareemul program from C:

either: MuMove4K PREPAREEMUL
or if it doesn't work : MuMove4K PREPAREEMUL A1200

should do the job.

> " Be warned! The "PREPAREEMUL" option is really a hack. This doesn't
mean its worse than the original "PREPAREEMUL" - this is a hack as well. "
 

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Re: Shapeshifter. Best mac os for 030?
« Reply #85 on: December 03, 2012, 08:10:22 PM »
Been playing with MacOS 7.6.1. This Mac stuff is fun and runs like a sucker on my 060 :).  There are many games to be explored and I've started already Warcraft II and Prince of Persia. Must try different apps and more games :banana:

Thanks again Cammy :)

PS. stick wth 7.6.1 and leave 8.0/8.1 for the random testing.
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Re: Shapeshifter. Best mac os for 030?
« Reply #86 on: December 03, 2012, 09:42:12 PM »
Did anybody else ever try the SavagePPC video driver? That was pretty neat on AGA. I only had the evaluation version (which limited the res) but it was pretty damned quick. As you might expect, using your PPC for the job rather than the 68K.

It all became redundant once I installed a graphics card, however. I actually used Office (don't taze me bro) and chemdraw on shapeshifter running 7.5.3 (?) to complete my final year writeup.
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Re: Shapeshifter. Best mac os for 030?
« Reply #87 on: December 04, 2012, 02:24:22 PM »
Yes tried it (full version on EAB server) and it didn't work for me. But it's useless anyway since there's CardTrickEVD and PippinEVD with RTG to use.
PS. I think it SavagePPC works only with older Shapeshifter versions
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Re: Shapeshifter. Best mac os for 030?
« Reply #88 on: December 04, 2012, 02:48:28 PM »
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BooBoo, you should definitely try the AGA Boost 030 driver: http://aminet.net/package/misc/emu/agaboost030ec

I hope it's speedy enough to get things done, I haven't tried it myself yet, I hoped there would be a 020 version to use with my 10MB A1200.


AgaBoost driver worked with 020, I don't know if it was Aminet version the one I ran but I promise it worked with 020+8MB fast.

BTW, WarcraftII stopped working on my miggy since certain Shapeshifter version (3.6? 3.7?) was released, I haven't tried again with 3.11
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Re: Shapeshifter. Best mac os for 030?
« Reply #89 on: December 04, 2012, 02:56:02 PM »
Warcraft II working with ShapeShifter 3.11 here.
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