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Title: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: Faerytale on February 14, 2016, 02:44:36 PM
Rumors from trusted source :) Beginning of mars , no specs yet! Hope this will be powerful enough for cool Amiga emulator projects :)
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: bloodline on February 14, 2016, 03:49:03 PM
Well the Model B 2 is extremely capable when it comes to emulation, so an throng more powerful can only be an advantage.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on February 14, 2016, 04:12:06 PM
The 3 will probably provide a 1.5Ghz CPU which will allow us full speed emulation of most Sega Dreamcast and Sony PSP titles. This will also give us access to 68000 emulation, as well as improve a few other things.

Likewise OpenGL beta drivers were recently released for the Linux desktop environment as well as for games...

Pi is my new Amiga/retro computer  hobbie... one I can afford.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: nicholas on February 14, 2016, 05:33:57 PM
Quote from: Faerytale;803990
Rumors from trusted source :) Beginning of mars , no specs yet! Hope this will be powerful enough for cool Amiga emulator projects :)


Is there a 68k JIT for ARM yet?
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: Methanoid on February 14, 2016, 06:04:53 PM
"Rumors from trusted source"

Yup, cos that always turns out to be true.   Bearing in mind we've had many Pi models... this "story" is very much like my breaking news

"Rumours from a trusted source [I'm from UK where we spell properly!] indicate that Apple will launch an iPhone [Insert Number] following the success of the iPhone [Insert Number -1]"

How about some info.. at least to give us all a giggle ;)

EDIT: Have a look at Rpi forums where they clamped down on meaningless speculation
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=136241
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: kamelito on February 14, 2016, 07:12:39 PM
I was about to buy one, no hurry I'll wait a little longer thx.
Kamelito
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: kolla on February 14, 2016, 08:39:04 PM
Meh that, I just want 20 pieces of RPi zero :)
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on February 14, 2016, 08:57:59 PM
Quote from: kolla;804003
Meh that, I just want 20 pieces of RPi zero :)


http://www.geek.com/chips/raspberry-pi-zero-cluster-in-development-1645823/

(http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/PiZero_Cluster_Board-625x350.jpg)
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on February 14, 2016, 09:00:43 PM
As for the Pi 3...

...there are also these while you wait...

http://www.hardkernel.com/main/main.php

Not as cheap of course, but very capable!
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: fishy_fiz on February 14, 2016, 09:01:09 PM
@Nicolas

In regards to ARM 68k emulation, there is a JIT core available. I think it debuted with UAE4ARM, but don't quote me on it  :)

It's not blindingly fast, but its enough to get, at a guess,  something like '030 through to lower spec '060 type speeds on an RPI2 (depending on what its doing).
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: kolla on February 14, 2016, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;804005
http://www.geek.com/chips/raspberry-pi-zero-cluster-in-development-1645823/


Exactly, I want to replace my old ARM cluster with something smaller :)
Plus various other uses, including one in each Amiga to act as "service companion", provinding local proxying, wifi etc.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: Hattig on February 14, 2016, 11:04:05 PM
Well I'm in no hurry, but I was looking at the Odroid C2 as a potential decent cheap ARM board (quad-2GHz A53, $40), but can wait a few weeks to see how this pans out.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: Faerytale on February 14, 2016, 11:47:47 PM
Quote from: Methanoid;803999
"Rumors from trusted source"

Yup, cos that always turns out to be true.   Bearing in mind we've had many Pi models... this "story" is very much like my breaking news

"Rumours from a trusted source [I'm from UK where we spell properly!] indicate that Apple will launch an iPhone [Insert Number] following the success of the iPhone [Insert Number -1]"

How about some info.. at least to give us all a giggle ;)

EDIT: Have a look at Rpi forums where they clamped down on meaningless speculation
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=136241


I cant spell english, and u dont seem to understand english :) Rumors doesnt mean carved in stone!
I hope what i heard is true, nothing more than that :)
Atleast i gave u some info, and u gave me %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@! back :)
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: jackflash on February 15, 2016, 03:09:25 AM
There is also the Orange Pi, I just ordered an Orange Pi Plus :-)
http://www.orangepi.org/
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: jltursan on February 15, 2016, 09:21:30 AM
The Orange has been a flop to me: lack of support, hard to setup to your needs and overclocked as hell. If you run it at full speed it gets hot enough to burn your finger to the bone.
I cannot speak about the ODROID ones; but the infamous XU4 is well-know by its noisy fan (a big no-no in this kind of devices), my only hope are the C1/C2, specially the later, not being factory overclocked.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on February 15, 2016, 03:03:15 PM
Quote from: kolla;804011
Exactly, I want to replace my old ARM cluster with something smaller :)
Plus various other uses, including one in each Amiga to act as "service companion", provinding local proxying, wifi etc.

That's what I kept thinking was that if I still owned an Amiga, I'd stick a Pi inside of it for additional features...
...using it for the internet wasn't something I'd thought of. Great solution! :)

Samba would of course be awesome as well!
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: kolla on February 15, 2016, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;804052
That's what I kept thinking was that if I still owned an Amiga, I'd stick a Pi inside of it for additional features...
...using it for the internet wasn't something I'd thought of. Great solution! :)

Samba would of course be awesome as well!

Yes, fast, reliable wireless connectivity that supports all encryptions and simply can be upgraded by replacing a usb stick. IPv6 - the Pi can do it and act as data-proxy for a few protocols. Samba indeed, or how about implementingan amiga netfs-server for *ix? :) Hooking the Pi serial console to a serial port on the amiga for console on the Pi (and provide PPP-login, if the Amiga doesn't have ethernet), streaming media to the Pi, video, audio.. Install a browser on the Pi use it via RDesktop from the Amiga... all in all, always have a little linux server around inside your Amiga :laughing:

There is PlipBox that does PLIP using Amiga parallel port - I do wonder if it can be possible to skip the entire arduino-ethernet bit and have Amiga communicate with Pi over the parallel port more directly. Of course, there is voltage differences one would need to take care of.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on February 18, 2016, 05:58:20 AM
Quote from: jackflash;804017
There is also the Orange Pi, I just ordered an Orange Pi Plus :-)
http://www.orangepi.org/

Does this work with RetroPi and Raspian?

https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroPie/comments/3j8jul/is_the_orangepi_retropie_compatible/
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: buzz on February 18, 2016, 11:32:30 AM
RetroPie has some basic support for armv7+Mali400 boards, but it is only tested on the ODroid-C1 (as I have one) and depends on a mali-fbdev package for support of GLES on the framebuffer.

With some work boards like the OrangePi could work, but the Mali drivers are not great, and the only stuff that is working currently is retroarch+libretro cores and SDL2 apps.

None of these boards have the vendor and user software support the RPI has, nor the community. For running RetroPie I recommend a Pi 2.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on February 18, 2016, 11:53:16 AM
THat's something I remember reading, they said that they kind of wished that they'd upgraded the gfx chip with the Pi 2, and probably would in the future...
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on February 20, 2016, 03:50:41 PM
Quote from: kolla;804055
Yes, fast, reliable wireless connectivity that supports all encryptions and simply can be upgraded by replacing a usb stick. IPv6 - the Pi can do it and act as data-proxy for a few protocols. Samba indeed, or how about implementingan amiga netfs-server for *ix? :) Hooking the Pi serial console to a serial port on the amiga for console on the Pi (and provide PPP-login, if the Amiga doesn't have ethernet), streaming media to the Pi, video, audio.. Install a browser on the Pi use it via RDesktop from the Amiga... all in all, always have a little linux server around inside your Amiga :laughing:

There is PlipBox that does PLIP using Amiga parallel port - I do wonder if it can be possible to skip the entire arduino-ethernet bit and have Amiga communicate with Pi over the parallel port more directly. Of course, there is voltage differences one would need to take care of.


I'd say you've been thinking about this pretty deeply!!!
If you do it, you HAVE to make a video to document the moment in Amiga history! ;)
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on February 27, 2016, 05:53:26 AM
With only days to go until launch, vBulletin now reveal some of the main news with the Raspberry Pi Model B 3, which may be both faster processor that supports wireless connection.

Just over a year after the launch of Raspberry Pi Model B 2 is the sequel to the input for launch leap day on 29 February - exactly four years after the first model was available for order. The details around the Raspberry Pi Model B 3, however, has so far been shrouded in mystery.

Now vBulletin reveal some of the main news with Raspberry Pi 3. First of all, enkortsdatorn a faster quad-core processor at 1.2 GHz, up from 0.9 GHz predecessor. Whether it be about the Broadcom BCM2836 with elevated clock speeds, or a completely new creation is not clear.

In addition to higher performance will be also integrated support for wireless connectivity in the form of Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, which is probably the main reasons for the relatively high introductory price of 499 crowns.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sweclockers.com%2Fnyhet%2F21794-raspberry-pi-3-far-inbyggt-wifi-och-bluetooth&edit-text=
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: QuikSanz on February 27, 2016, 06:48:22 AM
Piggyback one of these on a Vampire and see what kind of hell breaks loose.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on February 27, 2016, 08:37:32 AM
26 Feb 2016 at 20:41, Chris Williams

Pics A Raspberry Pi 3 with onboard Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and Bluetooth Low Energy (LE) support has emerged today.

The Model B Raspberry Pi 3 will be the first in the family of tiny cheap-and-cheerful ARM-powered computers to feature builtin wireless networking. For previous models, owners have had to make do with wired Ethernet, USB Wi-Fi adapters, or Ethernet-to-wireless gadgets. Having wire-free networking built into the little single-board computer will be a boon.

Confirmation of the Pi 3's existence comes from these lab results submitted by the Raspberry Pi Foundation to US communications watchdog the FCC. The documents show the new hardware complies with radio standards, and the regulator has approved the device for use.

The Model B's schematics, block diagrams, parts lists, and other blueprints have been withheld from public view at the request of the Raspberry Pi designers, so the exact specifications of the new system aren't yet known. More details are expected to be revealed next week.

From the submitted dossier, the Model B will use a single chip antenna. The hardware was tested in Hull, UK.

The Pi 3 Model B otherwise looks pretty much like 2015's quad-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A7-based Raspberry Pi 2: it sports a familiar Broadcom system-on-chip, HDMI port, SD card slot, wired Ethernet socket, and 40 general-purpose IO pins, all in a credit-card form factor.

Here are some photos of the new hardware:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/26/raspberry_pi_3/
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: dammy on February 27, 2016, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;804748
26 Feb 2016 at 20:41, Chris Williams

Pics A Raspberry Pi 3 with onboard Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and Bluetooth Low Energy (LE) support has emerged today.

The Model B Raspberry Pi 3 will be the first in the family of tiny cheap-and-cheerful ARM-powered computers to feature builtin wireless networking. For previous models, owners have had to make do with wired Ethernet, USB Wi-Fi adapters, or Ethernet-to-wireless gadgets. Having wire-free networking built into the little single-board computer will be a boon.

Confirmation of the Pi 3's existence comes from these lab results submitted by the Raspberry Pi Foundation to US communications watchdog the FCC. The documents show the new hardware complies with radio standards, and the regulator has approved the device for use.

The Model B's schematics, block diagrams, parts lists, and other blueprints have been withheld from public view at the request of the Raspberry Pi designers, so the exact specifications of the new system aren't yet known. More details are expected to be revealed next week.

From the submitted dossier, the Model B will use a single chip antenna. The hardware was tested in Hull, UK.

The Pi 3 Model B otherwise looks pretty much like 2015's quad-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A7-based Raspberry Pi 2: it sports a familiar Broadcom system-on-chip, HDMI port, SD card slot, wired Ethernet socket, and 40 general-purpose IO pins, all in a credit-card form factor.

Here are some photos of the new hardware:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/26/raspberry_pi_3/

It's going to be 64 bit (A53?): http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/02/27/raspberry-pi-3-model-b-board-adds-wifi-and-bluetooth-connectivity/
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: dammy on February 28, 2016, 09:03:24 PM
From what I've been reading, it's being suggested that the RP3 will be $3-$5 more then the RP2.  :)
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: dammy on February 29, 2016, 07:55:25 AM
And here it is: http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-3-model-b
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on February 29, 2016, 08:00:28 AM
Quote from: dammy;804854
And here it is: http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-3-model-b

Thanks G, I got 2!

For the note, this will allow you to run a LOT more PSP games than the Pi 2, and will also make many Dreamcast games playable. On that note, the frame rate on Fallout (under DOSBOX) should just be enough to make it worth playing now, and I imagine that some of the early FPS's should run better now too.

Naturally UAE4ARM should be good enough to run Alien Breed 3D on now, at least I'd think. If not, then close!
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on February 29, 2016, 08:26:11 AM
Quote from: Methanoid;803999
"Rumors from trusted source"

Yup, cos that always turns out to be true.   Bearing in mind we've had many Pi models... this "story" is very much like my breaking news

"Rumours from a trusted source [I'm from UK where we spell properly!] indicate that Apple will launch an iPhone [Insert Number] following the success of the iPhone [Insert Number -1]"

How about some info.. at least to give us all a giggle ;)

EDIT: Have a look at Rpi forums where they clamped down on meaningless speculation
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=136241



Clears throat. ;)
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: dammy on February 29, 2016, 06:16:04 PM
I am very impressed they kept the RP3 to $35USD.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on February 29, 2016, 09:19:30 PM
"Back Order Terms. This product is now out of stock. We have another shipment on the way - your order will be shipped in full upon it's delivery (due 7th May)"
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: nyteschayde on February 29, 2016, 10:56:09 PM
Quote from: kolla;804055
Yes, fast, reliable wireless connectivity that supports all encryptions and simply can be upgraded by replacing a usb stick. IPv6 - the Pi can do it and act as data-proxy for a few protocols. Samba indeed, or how about implementingan amiga netfs-server for *ix? :) Hooking the Pi serial console to a serial port on the amiga for console on the Pi (and provide PPP-login, if the Amiga doesn't have ethernet), streaming media to the Pi, video, audio.. Install a browser on the Pi use it via RDesktop from the Amiga... all in all, always have a little linux server around inside your Amiga :laughing:

There is PlipBox that does PLIP using Amiga parallel port - I do wonder if it can be possible to skip the entire arduino-ethernet bit and have Amiga communicate with Pi over the parallel port more directly. Of course, there is voltage differences one would need to take care of.
This is something I seriously considered doing a while back with my RPi but I didn't want to risk damaging the Amiga itself. It'd fit nicely in the trapdoor of an A1200. However the one thing I really really want on all these Raspberry Pi's and all the clones is RAM. Why the hell are we doing only 2GB on the best of them. Add $10-20 and double or quadruple the RAM.

The lack of RAM on a RPi is what causes swap and the I/O on the boards isn't what you'd call fantastic. I have a PCDuino3 because it has SATA onboard. The CPU/GPU on all these micro PCs are good enough to play with, but the lack of RAM and slow I/O prevent them from being used outside of hobbyist situations.

A $15 RPiZero with 2-4GB of RAM would be awesome!
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on March 01, 2016, 05:46:00 AM
At $35, I have NO complaints in regards to what the Pi 2 does, be it as an emulation station or as a PC. It performs, by leaps and bounds, better than I ever imagined. Now with the Pi 3, I look forward to enjoying more PSP games that I could previously while over clocked, not to mention Dreamcast.

Raspian of course will be even better, and yes it is no desktop replacement, but then again I'd have to be on crack to expect as much. Again, it does exactly what it sets out to do, and a whole lot more. I'm excited to receive these new units and see how far I can push them. It's fun... sort of like pushing old hardware, but cheaper!!! So much cheaper!!!

http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/raspberry-pi-3-vs-pi-2
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: jltursan on March 01, 2016, 07:42:39 AM
Quote from: nyteschayde;804979
However the one thing I really really want on all these Raspberry Pi's and all the clones is RAM. Why the hell are we doing only 2GB on the best of them. Add $10-20 and double or quadruple the RAM.

The lack of RAM on a RPi is what causes swap and the I/O on the boards isn't what you'd call fantastic.

Seems that the video core the PIs build puts the limit of RAM in the actual 1GB. OTOH, 2GB counterparts (like ODroid models) are pretty efficients as the RAM use under ARM is far less than with bigger processors.

I would be extremely happy with a revision with a mere 2GB, really, really happy :-)
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: Yasu on March 01, 2016, 11:53:23 AM
I guess this means that the Pi3 is now a better credit card sized computer than its competitors?
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: AmigaNG on March 01, 2016, 12:25:41 PM
You know I'm glad I held off getting pi, they seem to be improving them at a impressive rate. I might just get myself this one.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on March 01, 2016, 05:39:28 PM
Quote from: Yasu;805013
I guess this means that the Pi3 is now a better credit card sized computer than its competitors?


Pretty much, I mean there for faster alternatives, but for more money, but the competition always goes for gfx chip sets that are not supported by the Linux Distros for the Pi, such as Raspian and Retropie.

So ya, Pi is the only way to go to make a long story short, unless you know how to code...
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on March 01, 2016, 05:44:54 PM
Quote from: jltursan;805003
Seems that the video core the PIs build puts the limit of RAM in the actual 1GB. OTOH, 2GB counterparts (like ODroid models) are pretty efficients as the RAM use under ARM is far less than with bigger processors.

I would be extremely happy with a revision with a mere 2GB, really, really happy :-)


I have not ran into a situation with my Pi or any of the software or games that I use where in I felt I needed any more than 1Gb or RAM.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on March 02, 2016, 10:40:29 PM
Since when does 30 Euros (or what ever those are) translate to $90.39?!?

I only bought 2 off that site.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: AmigaNG on March 03, 2016, 05:04:14 PM
The only problem I think the pi has in competition now is how cheap you can get Chinese Android devices now, or even second hand old android phones are becoming.

There a Android Tv dongle that I just found for £17 called (MK809IV) on ebay that has a 1.3Ghz quad core, 2Gb ram, wifi, blutooth, full size usb port and android 4.4 which is good enough to download a lot of android emulators on.
The only down side of these device are the build quality and there usually lock to android so OS wise you cant mess with it like a pi can with software. But still a bargain.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on March 03, 2016, 05:42:05 PM
Quote from: AmigaNG;805325
The only problem I think the pi has in competition now is how cheap you can get Chinese Android devices now, or even second hand old android phones are becoming.

There a Android Tv dongle that I just found for £17 called (MK809IV) on ebay that has a 1.3Ghz quad core, 2Gb ram, wifi, blutooth, full size usb port and android 4.4 which is good enough to download a lot of android emulators on.
The only down side of these device are the build quality and there usually lock to android so OS wise you cant mess with it like a pi can with software. But still a bargain.



I bought one of those for my parents for Christmas and maxed it out with movies for them to watch.

They are fun for sure, but yes, alas you don't have the freedom and the elbow room as the Pi...
...though they would go well with a Pi. ;)
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: jltursan on March 04, 2016, 07:40:42 AM
Quote
I have not ran into a situation with my Pi or any of the software or  games that I use where in I felt I needed any more than 1Gb or RAM.
That's why I've been trying for some time to turn one of these devices into a desktop machine (silent and small size) and believe me, they're still far from capable to run basic desktop gear. Open a browser, a mail client and a Office suite and you'll be stuck for minutes waiting for things to happen...:(

I must to go for a ODroid XU4 to get something like the above and it's not silent anymore.

Why can't a Linux be installed in our old Android phones?, I've some of them and all are far better than the Pi3 :rant:
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: polyp2000 on March 04, 2016, 07:50:27 AM
Quote from: jltursan;805360
That's why I've been trying for some time to turn one of these devices into a desktop machine (silent and small size) and believe me, they're still far from capable to run basic desktop gear. Open a browser, a mail client and a Office suite and you'll be stuck for minutes waiting for things to happen...:(

I must to go for a ODroid XU4 to get something like the above and it's not silent anymore.

Why can't a Linux be installed in our old Android phones?, I've some of them and all are far better than the Pi3 :rant:


There are ways :
http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Convert-an-Android-Device-to-Linux
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: jltursan on March 04, 2016, 08:06:53 AM
None of them seem easier than write an OS image to a SD card; but maybe it's worth to investigate, thanks for pointing this up!
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: jj on March 04, 2016, 12:48:11 PM
Mine turned up yesterday :)
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on March 04, 2016, 03:45:23 PM
Quote from: jltursan;805360
That's why I've been trying for some time to turn one of these devices into a desktop machine (silent and small size) and believe me, they're still far from capable to run basic desktop gear. Open a browser, a mail client and a Office suite and you'll be stuck for minutes waiting for things to happen...:(

I must to go for a ODroid XU4 to get something like the above and it's not silent anymore.

Why can't a Linux be installed in our old Android phones?, I've some of them and all are far better than the Pi3 :rant:


Transferring your system to USB speeds things up a bit.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: nicholas on March 04, 2016, 04:20:49 PM
Using F2FS with noatime, nodiratime on a class 10 card helps a lot too.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on March 04, 2016, 04:24:21 PM
Also, despite what they say...

Install Chrome!
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: dammy on March 08, 2016, 04:05:53 PM
According to this article, Raspberry Pi Foundation has shipped over 8 million units in four years.  That caught my eye since Commodore sold 7 million Amigas.   https://opensource.com/life/16/2/raspberry-pi-3-rolls-out?sc_cid=70160000000q67VAAQ

Somewhere Jack is smiling: "We need to build computers for the masses, not the classes." - Jack Tramiel
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: nicholas on March 08, 2016, 04:13:31 PM
The ODROID-C2 looks like a decent board. Faster CPU and GPU with eMMC SSD slot but no WiFi. Only $5 more too.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: nicholas on March 08, 2016, 04:16:32 PM
Quote from: jltursan;805360
That's why I've been trying for some time to turn one of these devices into a desktop machine (silent and small size) and believe me, they're still far from capable to run basic desktop gear. Open a browser, a mail client and a Office suite and you'll be stuck for minutes waiting for things to happen...:(

I must to go for a ODroid XU4 to get something like the above and it's not silent anymore.

Why can't a Linux be installed in our old Android phones?, I've some of them and all are far better than the Pi3 :rant:

Full Linux distros have been ported to many Android devices over on http://forum.xda-developers.com
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on March 08, 2016, 07:24:23 PM
Quote from: nicholas;805577
The ODROID-C2 looks like a decent board. Faster CPU and GPU with eMMC SSD slot but no WiFi. Only $5 more too.


The video chipset isn't as well supported atm, that's why everyone uses Pi still.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: jltursan on March 09, 2016, 07:48:50 AM
Agreed, that's the case of the Orange PI, lack of support and poorly home-cooked distros. The fake hardware is the lesser problem when dealiing with an OPI.

So, has the ODroid also lack of support?, seems that it has a lot of distros available, none of them has bring video hardware acceleration?. If so, the XU4 it's severely crippled and can't be used as a desktop replacement for sure...:(
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: nicholas on March 09, 2016, 08:56:40 AM
Quote from: jltursan;805631
Agreed, that's the case of the Orange PI, lack of support and poorly home-cooked distros. The fake hardware is the lesser problem when dealiing with an OPI.

So, has the ODroid also lack of support?, seems that it has a lot of distros available, none of them has bring video hardware acceleration?. If so, the XU4 it's severely crippled and can't be used as a desktop replacement for sure...:(

They use a binary firmware blob for the GPU like the RPi did in the early days and NVidia do still.
Title: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: SamuraiCrow on March 10, 2016, 11:56:16 AM
I may have to get one of these.  The RasPi 2 was half the speed of my Intel Mac Mini 2.1 with a Core2 Duo.  This could tip the scales in favor of the RasPi 3!  Not to mention the hardware Mesa drivers!
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on March 17, 2016, 12:15:30 AM
If there is a RetroPie distro for the Odroid (or others) that can play PSP and Dreamcast full speed, as well as all the other ports and emulators that the Pi varient of RetroPie supports, then I'm on it!

It's just that I've yet to find such a thing yet.  

In the mean time my Pi 3's came in and...

...I'm pretty happy!!! I wish it were 1.5Ghz, but honestly 1.2 is good enough to play 95% of what I want it to play anyhow. And when the Gl wrapper is done, the sky will be the limit. Also this will make things better for those who want to use it as a desktop too.
Title: Re: Raspberry PI 3 B is incoming!
Post by: XDelusion on March 17, 2016, 12:16:30 AM
Quote from: jltursan;805360
That's why I've been trying for some time to turn one of these devices into a desktop machine (silent and small size) and believe me, they're still far from capable to run basic desktop gear. Open a browser, a mail client and a Office suite and you'll be stuck for minutes waiting for things to happen...:(

I must to go for a ODroid XU4 to get something like the above and it's not silent anymore.

Why can't a Linux be installed in our old Android phones?, I've some of them and all are far better than the Pi3 :rant:


Minutes? For me it's like using a Netbook... so I have to presume you are running off of a SD card and a SLOW on at that.