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Title: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: Helgis75 on May 03, 2003, 03:17:35 PM
Yep, it's true! The brilliant SciTech SNAP is soon available for Linux, so for any of you running Linux on AmigaOne should definitely check this out and think about getting this one when it becomes available! It would help you a lot with your graphic systems!!! You won't regret it...Check this site:

www.scitechsoft.com (http://www.scitechsoft.com)

Have fun!  :-)
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: hnl_dk on May 03, 2003, 03:26:30 PM
And hopefully it will be ready for AmigaOS 4.0 :-D

Here (http://www.scitechsoft.com/chiplist/snap_linux_chiplist.html) is the "Certified Chip List" for Linux :pint:

And here (http://www.scitechsoft.com/chiplist/snap_os2_chiplist.html) is the list for OS2 8-)
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: on May 03, 2003, 03:32:04 PM
I really don't see how this is useful for Linux users.  No 3D acceleration is pretty pointless.
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: Helgis75 on May 03, 2003, 03:49:03 PM
It's definitely included in AmigaOS 4, so don't worry about that! To some of you wondering about SNAP, the point with it is to save a lot of time and space updating graphic drivers. Snap has a function that automatically update your system..It's looking very good, indeed...and i like the whole idea with it:-)

Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: catohagen on May 03, 2003, 03:49:16 PM
>No 3D acceleration is pretty pointless

probably useless for game freaks :-D

I think most people do serious work, and then its
good to be able to just throw in whatever gfx
card you have laying around, instead of buying
a fancy 3d card, just because it exists drivers
for it.
I dont care about games, so with these drivers
I have probably 5 working gfx cards for A1/OS4   laying around on my loft.
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: on May 03, 2003, 04:08:38 PM
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probably useless for game freaks

I think most people do serious work,


Coding isn't serious? ;-)
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: PulsatingQuasar on May 03, 2003, 06:58:40 PM
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No 3D acceleration is pretty pointless.


As far as I understood it the deal with Hyperion was that Hyperion do the 3D part in the future.
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: on May 03, 2003, 07:04:29 PM
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As far as I understood it the deal with Hyperion was that Hyperion do the 3D part in the future.


I knew that, I was talking about the Linux version specifically.  Can't really see a use for it.
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: Kronos on May 03, 2003, 07:14:09 PM
@mdma

Why ? Because Linux allready has drivers for most GFX-cards ?

Linux also has drivers for most printers, but IrseeSoft is
still trying to sell TurboPrint for Linux.

Both should be possible if those drivers are better than the
free ones. This is the case with TurboPrint and this might also
be the case with some of the GFX-drivers as some manufactors are
only supplying closed-source and x86-only drivers for Linux.
(nVidia for example).

Also ontopic:
http://www.amigafuture.de/heft/af42_20.php (http://www.amigafuture.de/heft/af42_20.php)

Sorry only german, but the article reports that the OS4-SNAP will
ported by Hyperion, based on the Linux-SNAP ported by SciTech
from their OS/2-version.
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: on May 03, 2003, 07:30:11 PM
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GFX-drivers as some manufactors are
only supplying closed-source


SNAP is closed too, and I can't see them being as fast as NVidia's drivers.  And as I said before, where is the 3D support?
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: Kronos on May 03, 2003, 07:33:22 PM
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mdma wrote:

SNAP is closed too, and I can't see them being as fast as NVidia's drivers.  And as I said before, where is the 3D support?


Yeap, but where are nVidia's divers for PPC ?  ;-)

AFAIK Hyperion are supposed to do the 3D-support for all
"SNAPped" platforms.
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: on May 03, 2003, 07:42:50 PM
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AFAIK Hyperion are supposed to do the 3D-support for all
"SNAPped" platforms.


Well, if that'strue, then it would be good, but who is gonna buy an A1 and just run Linux on it? Oooops........ ;-)
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: Helgis75 on May 03, 2003, 08:03:45 PM
NVidia-drivers shouldn't be too complicated to port to the new OS4-system. Just give it time.. :-)
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: PulsatingQuasar on May 03, 2003, 08:52:38 PM
You can recompile drivers for NVidia cards! Or does that only work with the x86 platform?

I always recompile the NVidia drivers for Linux myself.
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: on May 03, 2003, 08:54:40 PM
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You can recompile drivers for NVidia cards! Or does that only work with the x86 platform?


Part of the NVidia driver for linux is a binary object.  This is because of code not owned by NVidia being used and they can't GPL it.
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: PulsatingQuasar on May 03, 2003, 08:57:55 PM
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AFAIK Hyperion are supposed to do the 3D-support for all
"SNAPped" platforms.


That's what I meant.

AFAIK the deal was also that making SNAP run on PPC was done by the company itself so Hyperion can just add it in and start work on 3D.
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: Floid on May 03, 2003, 10:21:47 PM
I haven't really looked at what they're offering, but I'm assuming it's available as an XFree86 driver, from what you guys are rolling on about.

The best use for SciTech's products have, previous to this new embeddable gig, been in the corporate realm.  There's little point for them with XFree86 on your personal machine (presuming your personal machine already works properly), but imagine being in charge of an office environment with heterogenous hardware- or even worse, hardware that's homogenous with a poorly-supported chipset?

mdma: XFCE?   :ranting:
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: on May 03, 2003, 10:28:04 PM
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mdma: XFCE?


Whats wrong with XFCE4?

It's very much like the specs for AOS4's Workbench with Dockies.
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: Floid on May 03, 2003, 11:49:16 PM
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mdma wrote:
Whats wrong with XFCE4?

It's very much like the specs for AOS4's Workbench with Dockies.

Heh.  Didn't mean to take this thread OT as well; should've used the sillier 'crazy' emoticon.  I just found it CDE-like and not particularly groundbreaking.  I was also thinking of 3, so yes, nevermind, 4 is a totally different beast. (http://members.home.nl/jbhuijsmans/xfce4-cvs.html#shots)

Now if I only had the skill and time to turn DFM (http://www.kaisersite.de/dfm/) into something reasonable..
Title: Re: SciTech SNAP soon available for Linux too!!! Check it out!
Post by: on May 04, 2003, 12:33:07 AM
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Now if I only had the skill and time to turn DFM into something reasonable..


The ROX Filer is quite a good fie manager.  Better than nautilus and the horrible konqueror.
ROX Filer (http://rox.sourceforge.net/rox_filer.php3)

-edit-

to install on debian:

add these lines to /etc/apt/source.list

deb http://www.hrw.one.pl/apt/ sid/
deb http://www.hrw.one.pl/apt/ sarge/
deb-src http://www.hrw.one.pl/apt/ src/

download this file

http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/shared-mime-info/shared-mime-info_0.9-1_i386.deb (http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/shared-mime-info/shared-mime-info_0.9-1_i386.deb)

then do

dpkg -i shared-mime-info_0.9-1_i386.deb
apt-get update
apt-get install rox-filer-hrw

type rox to run the filemanager