79 available systems for MorphOS 3.5

[zylesea]

No, you're not.

@B00tdisk: hive-mind.  But in all seriousness, we're fully aware there are people out there who hate Apple to company and/or Apple hardware.  Doesn't need to be said all the time, or really at all as, on the whole, it adds nothing useful to discourse.

I don't like Apple (the company) too much, too. But I think that makes it even more great that MorphOS runs on Apple hardware. Isn't there a better way to p*ss on Apple's leg than to wipe out OS X and install a "real OS" on that hardware? Plus, Apple doen't see a cent from purchasing used hardware.

For all you Apple haters: Free Apple hardware, install MorphOS!

[zylesea]

What happened the SAM460 that was being ported onto?

Not ready yet. Will come later.

[zylesea]

Yes, it's great....but what are the prices??
(for those of us not in the know)

prices of what exactly?

Suitable hardware ranges from free or close to free (eMacs, lucky findings) over the about 50-100 EUR/$ range (mostly Powermacs) to 99 $ for an Efika or about 100-250 EUR/$ for potent Powerbooks or G5 sytems. Pegasos 2 systems are usually a bit higher priced, since OS4 users are highly interested in these machines. Take an hour and browse ebay to get an idea.

MorphOS demo is for free, a registration key is 49 EUR for Efika, 79 EUR for Pegasos, Mac mini, eMac or PowerMac G4 and 111.11 EUR for PowerMac g5, ibook or Powerbook.

All in all you can easily get a nice system and registration key for 150-200 EUR - for a Powerbook or G5 a little more is required.

[zylesea]

Are there any experience reports with AmigaOS software compatibility? Which applications run, which don't?

Does it run any AmigaOS PPC software, like Shogo or Quake, for example? Does it run AmigaOS 4 applications? The ABI compatibility with AmigaOS is *the* selling point of MorphOS, for anything else I can use Linux. Or asking differently, is MorphOS actually really worth the money?

I have an old Apple Mac G4 with 1.42 GHz and 1GB, so I actually have compatible hardware.

Cheers,

Adrian

Best thing is: the demo is completely free - you can try it out yourself. You can install the demo or just use teh live CD.

As general rule of thumb: Most 68k applications running on RTG/RTA systems are running on MorphOS, but also some even older software, too. Hardware banging stuff refuses to work though, but there's UAE for MorphOS available to fill that gap, too.
PowerUp and WarpOS programs run of course as well. For Warp3D programs there is a wrapper available for R1xx and R2xx and Voodoo gfx card, but not for R3xx gfx cards (but MorphOS programs can use the powerful R300 3D functions of corse).
OS4 software (well, there are only few interesting titles not available on MorphOS natively anyway) ususlla don't run. There is a progam called OS4Emu - which is an OS wrapper for MorphSO. But it is an abandoned product and has practicaly little use anymore.
Much already known from Amiga software is available as native version (YAM, AmiIRC, Hollywood), too. And of course there's much other MorphOS software.

And to answer your question: It depends what you are expecting from the product whether it is worth the money, but there are pretty satisfied users, me among them who don't regret to have spend teh money. And Iam not only satisfied because teh binary compability to AmigaOS, but because of the entire OS - a compeltely different feeling than *nix, Win or OS X. An OS in true C= Amiga tradition.

To give you a starter about MorphOS from the Amiga POV you may read: http://via.i-networx.de/wim.htm

[zylesea]

A couple of years ago I looked at some MOS Macs and they were permanently limited to 1024x768.  I was warned not to get one of those.  Now that I have your reassurance, I feel very glad that they did not become popular in the MOS community.

Maybe you worded it a bit misunderstandable. Desktop resolutions of far above 1024x768 are possible with _every_ MorphOS computer (even my old MorphOS 0.4 A1200/BVision 8MB ran 1280x1024). But if you mean that more or less demanding 3D games run fluently only in 1024X768 that may be true for lower end systems. However, I can not back it up for certain, but the usual MorphOS setup is probably a G4 in the range between 1 -1.5 Ghz with 1 GB RAM and a 64 or 128MB r200 gfx card. There are a few better ones and a few worse ones (G3 Pegasos, Efika), but they are a minoriy. Make a game acceptable on 1GHz G4/R200 w/ 64 MB VRAM and nice on 1.5 GHz G47r300 w/ 128 MB VRAM and most MorphOS users will be pretty satisfied.

[zylesea]

 Need to check out how far the Java VM has come

It's exaclty at the point it was at 2.7 - there's no Java VM. And to my knowledge there's non in development. And who needs a JVM still today?

[zylesea]

The machine I was thinking of was a Mac where the whole computer was built into the monitor.  The monitor only accepted 1024x768 max.  So the computer hardware was limited to 1024x768.  Therefore MOS was limited to 1024x768.  This is what I was told.

Not MorphOS's fault.  :uzi:Apple's fault.



I am very glad that most MorphOS machines can display 1280x1024 or higher. :banana:

The eMacs are really special and I guess they are even lesser popular than Efika among MorphOS users. I doubt there are many more than a handful (sic!) eMacs equipped with a MorphOS license.
Most popular among MorphOS users is probably the PowerMac G4, followed by PegasosII and then Mac mini or Powerbook. G5s are not wide spread (yet) as aren't iBooks (yet).  eMacs, Efikas and Pegasos1 with key are rather rare (at least as primary MorphOS system). Of course this is only my guess and based on impression and not on actual/reliable data.