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Offline itix

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #60 on: December 04, 2012, 09:00:34 PM »
Quote from: eliyahu;717394
@itix

is this effort being worked on by a single individual, or the entire team?


The entire team just like all hardware porting projects are.

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at what point can SAM owners expect to know what on-board hardware will be supported, such as audio via the SM502?


I dont know. Better ask directly from Frank Mariak (pega-1) or Mark Olsen ('trollolol') at MZ when it is online again.

Integrated ethernet, SATA and USB ports must be supported or the board is useless.

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are there any plans to eventually support newer radeon HD video cards, or will R200-series cards be the main focus in the immediate future?


There are no plans to support newer Radeon HD cards in near future.

In the immediate future the main focus is on r200 and r300 series cards. I dont see point for newer Radeon HD cards because many Macs have built-in gfx card and gfx speed is not our bottleneck.

But... never say never. One step at a time.
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Offline itix

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #61 on: December 04, 2012, 09:01:49 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;717466
Well, I realise that's up to the team, but IMHO it's a shame.


CSPPC and BPPC cards are hard to find these days.
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Offline Akiko

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #62 on: December 04, 2012, 09:12:44 PM »
Quote from: itix;717509
CSPPC and BPPC cards are hard to find these days.


Yes very hard to find for sale, but a lot are still in use and the reason why Amigakit commisioned AmigaOS 4.1 for Classics.
 

Offline nicholas

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #63 on: June 20, 2013, 07:39:25 PM »
Quote from: persia;717190
Best response from Hyperion would be to retaliate and make aOS 4.x available on old PPC Macs...


I wish they would port OS4 to Mac hardware, I can't understand why they won't do it.  The Pegasos 2 port proves they don't have to limit their hardware choices to only "certified" AmigaONE hardware.

It seems like they are cutting their nose off to spite their face. :(
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Offline nicholas

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #64 on: June 20, 2013, 07:45:06 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;717346
So, any chance of seeing MorphOS 3.x for classic?


There are some updates for MOS 1.4.5 at http://morphos-team.net/downloads but I'm wondering how much of the userland components of MOS 3.2 one could copy from the installation CD to a MOS 1.4.5 installation without borking it totally?

Anyone here tried it?
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Offline vox

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #65 on: March 14, 2014, 10:35:44 PM »
Quote from: itix;717508
The entire team just like all hardware porting projects are.

I dont know. Better ask directly from Frank Mariak (pega-1) or Mark Olsen ('trollolol') at MZ when it is online again.

Integrated ethernet, SATA and USB ports must be supported or the board is useless.

There are no plans to support newer Radeon HD cards in near future.

In the immediate future the main focus is on r200 and r300 series cards. I dont see point for newer Radeon HD cards because many Macs have built-in gfx card and gfx speed is not our bottleneck.

But... never say never. One step at a time.

Has this anyhow changed? Which gfx cards will be supported?
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Offline itix

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #66 on: March 14, 2014, 11:25:15 PM »
I can not comment more than what was shown and announced at Amiga Pianeta last year.

http://www.morphzone.info/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=9691&post_id=107369&viewmode=flat&sortorder=0&showonepost=1

It is not impossible but SAM460 first.
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Offline Iggy

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2014, 11:39:14 PM »
@ itix

When did bigfoot become 'trollolol'?

@ everyone in general - lotta buzz for a port to an obscure, overpriced Italian motherboard
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Offline itix

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #68 on: March 15, 2014, 01:07:41 AM »
Quote from: Iggy;760762
@ itix

When did bigfoot become 'trollolol'?


He was using that nick (for a moment) on IRC :-)
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Offline skolman

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #69 on: March 15, 2014, 03:16:42 PM »
Quote from: Crumb;717477
1.4.5 for classic is limited to 2 hours without keyfile, not 30 minutes.


Registration keyfile is free.
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Offline spirantho

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #70 on: March 15, 2014, 03:25:44 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;760762

@ everyone in general - lotta buzz for a port to an obscure, overpriced Italian motherboard


Reason being only one platform (the Peg-II) can currently run OS4 and MOS, and that's not available and somewhat limited (no RadeonHD, PCI/AGP only etc.). Having another machine which can be bought and which runs both can only be a good thing, in my opinion.
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Offline Iggy

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #71 on: March 15, 2014, 06:16:35 PM »
Quote from: spirantho;760802
Reason being only one platform (the Peg-II) can currently run OS4 and MOS, and that's not available and somewhat limited (no RadeonHD, PCI/AGP only etc.). Having another machine which can be bought and which runs both can only be a good thing, in my opinion.

Supporting the X5000 would be a better move, imho.
Future Sam460 availability is questionable.
Acube really needs to reconsider is processor choices.
Applied Micro CPUs are just too weak.
A 1.4 GHz e5500 cored T1020 would not significantly raise board costs, it would be faster, and dual core.
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Offline itix

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #72 on: March 15, 2014, 07:28:00 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;760811
Supporting the X5000 would be a better move, imho.
Future Sam460 availability is questionable.


If there is enough demand ACube could produce another batch. If not available as new you can obtain few units from second hand market.

X5000 availability is more questionable. We dont know when it will be available and how long it will be available. At this moment it is easier to source second hand SAM460 than X5000 ;)

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Acube really needs to reconsider is processor choices.
Applied Micro CPUs are just too weak.
A 1.4 GHz e5500 cored T1020 would not significantly raise board costs, it would be faster, and dual core.


I dont know how successful ACube has been with their business plan but I believe they cant choose any random CPU. SAM is industrial product for industrial customers.
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Offline Iggy

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #73 on: March 15, 2014, 07:44:39 PM »
Quote from: itix;760813
I dont know how successful ACube has been with their business plan but I believe they cant choose any random CPU. SAM is industrial product for industrial customers.

Does Acube use a plan?
They seem devoted to using processors from one company who's product line is remarkably unimpressive.

I don't understand the logic in it. AMCC is much harder to deal with than Freescale Semi.

They must be getting these devices at a really low cost, which really highlights their extreme mark up.
Limited production numbers can only excuse so much.
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Offline spirantho

Re: MorphOS for Sam460
« Reply #74 on: March 15, 2014, 08:16:06 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;760814
They must be getting these devices at a really low cost, which really highlights their extreme mark up.
Limited production numbers can only excuse so much.


Acube do not have a massive mark-up at all... component costs are only a small part of the production costs of boards like this

It's been a very long time since anyone got rich off the Amiga, unfortunately
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