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Offline OlafS3

Re: a shaky/flaky video of aros68k on aga
« on: February 16, 2016, 09:04:51 AM »
good job Wawa
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: a shaky/flaky video of aros68k on aga
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2016, 10:20:49 AM »
Quote from: Gulliver;804103
holly crap, it took 1 minute to boot!

And it is a 68060...


Thank you for the video.

But it certainly shows the sorry state of Aros68k :(

Hueh? :confused:

it is completely booting from harddrive in opposite to anything 3.X related based on kickstart roms

is booting your preferred task or hobby that that is so important for you?
« Last Edit: February 16, 2016, 10:24:52 AM by OlafS3 »
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: a shaky/flaky video of aros68k on aga
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2016, 10:26:42 AM »
Quote from: Gulliver;804105
How much does your Amiga take too boot AmigaOS? An entire minute is definately too much for a 68060. It seems Aros68k needs lots of love in the optimization department.

it seems you forget that most of Amiga OS is in the roms?

also it boots scalos so when judging it you must stop when scalos shows up
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: a shaky/flaky video of aros68k on aga
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2016, 10:28:13 AM »
Quote from: Gulliver;804105
How much does your Amiga take too boot AmigaOS? An entire minute is definately too much for a 68060. It seems Aros68k needs lots of love in the optimization department.

Important is how it behaves when running

Judging something at the boot time is very "amigan", nobody else outside would even care about
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: a shaky/flaky video of aros68k on aga
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2016, 10:30:38 AM »
Quote from: Gulliver;804107
Fair enough then, so is there a way to burn this Aros68k rom in a chip?

the roms it is based on could certainly... hopefully it will be possible to do for FPGA based projects

When booting aros first step is to install the aros roms. That step is not necessary when using 3.X and related roms. There certainly is room for efficiency improvements of course.
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: a shaky/flaky video of aros68k on aga
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2016, 10:41:31 AM »
Quote from: Gulliver;804110
Yes, it is absolutely true. But that has to be with the fact that we dont use Amigas like servers or tablets or phones that need to be online 24 hours a day. So I would say it is a justified expectation from an Amiga point of view to boot in rather short time. Still 46 seconds to the Scalos bootlogo is still too much for a 68060. I can only imagine a 68030 user just waiting forever, and lets not even care about a 68020 one.

All in all, to be fair, system responsiveness seems adequate when the system has already booted and loaded.

I think the boot time is less related to 68060 than to speed of harddrive

68060 influences how it behaves when it has started. There is certainly still some room for improvements because Aros was developed on and for X86 at first of course not using amiga features like the blitter. But that has nothing to do with how fast it boots. Fast harddrive and Aros roms using as rom will make a big difference already.
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: a shaky/flaky video of aros68k on aga
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2016, 10:50:39 AM »
Quote from: Gulliver;804113
So hopefully things will get better.

the more people will use it, give feedback and even contribute to the development the faster it will improve

in this sense... it can only (and will) improve