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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2014, 05:29:04 PM »
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It's new hardware.  Running AmigaOS.  But still the community will find a million things to complain about, LOL.  Oh well, kudos, anyway!  :drink:

Well, one sane voice from amongst the fanatics.
Don't expect the legacy wackos to appreciate the new hardware.
Even if it can run circles around their beloved hardware, they hold tightly to their beliefs.

As to pricing, don't get your hopes up folks.
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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2014, 08:00:34 PM »
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Well, one sane voice from amongst the fanatics.
Don't expect the legacy wackos to appreciate the new hardware.
Even if it can run circles around their beloved hardware, they hold tightly to their beliefs.

As to pricing, don't get your hopes up folks.

i do not appreciate being called a "fanatic" or a "wacko" as long as my interest remains (for various reasons) with the real thing and not neccesarily with followup hobby projects. it remains everybodys own right to choose whether they are into the fpga systems, mos, aros or os4 or not. while these solutions may be interesting for some (even i have remaining interest in them), they cannot compete with what genuine amiga is, being actual popular and progressive product at its time, rather than a geek project for few interested. wandering around the net you will notice, that there is still rather huge sentiment for amiga, its users keep in private, usually not participating in any so called "amiga" forums, partly even aware of current developments such as aros68k. i dont think you are entiteled to insult these people, just because they might not buy into what *you* consider "amiga ng".
 

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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2014, 08:11:07 PM »
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i do not appreciate being called a "fanatic" or a "wacko" as long as my interest remains (for various reasons) with the real thing and not neccesarily with followup hobby projects. it remains everybodys own right to choose whether they are into the fpga systems, mos, aros or os4 or not. while these solutions may be interesting for some (even i have remaining interest in them), they cannot compete with what genuine amiga is, being actual popular and progressive product at its time, rather than a geek project for few interested. wandering around the net you will notice, that there is still rather huge sentiment for amiga, its users keep in private, usually not participating in any so called "amiga" forums, partly even aware of current developments such as aros68k. i dont think you are entiteled to insult these people, just because they might not buy into what *you* consider "amiga ng".

Apparently you have your own opinions.
But while you can ask me to be more civil, you can't convince me to join you.
The Amiga is dead.
And, it was a seriously over priced device when new.
Which is why I gravitated to other 68K based systems that offered better value.
As to the value of NG systems, while no one is insisting you join this community, at least they can run modern software.

"they cannot compete with what genuine amiga is"

Yes, they are not deathly slow with limited and expensive upgrade options.

And you are a fanatic.
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

"You, got to stem the evil tide, and keep it on the the inside" - Rogers Waters

"God was never on your side" - Lemmy

Amiga! "Our appeal has become more selective"
 

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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2014, 08:17:37 PM »
Please, don't turn this into a flame war.

If you don't like the new hardware, then just don't say anything. There are to much negativity and its driving people away.
 

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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2014, 08:23:30 PM »
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Please, don't turn this into a flame war.

If you don't like the new hardware, then just don't say anything. There are to much negativity and its driving people away.

Sorry, I'm not trying to be argumentative.
I have actually been looking forward to this hardware for awhile.
And there is no promise my OS of choice will ever run on it.

Its just nice to have some new Amiga hardware.

Yes, I used the word Amiga, unapologetically.
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

"You, got to stem the evil tide, and keep it on the the inside" - Rogers Waters

"God was never on your side" - Lemmy

Amiga! "Our appeal has become more selective"
 

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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2014, 08:48:04 PM »
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Apparently you have your own opinions.
sure i do, am i supposed to be a sock puppet?
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But while you can ask me to be more civil
thanks, i almost didnt dare.
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you can't convince me to join you.
as if it was my goal. btw, missionize is (i guess) exactly what fanatics usually do. and now note, that it is actually you, who want to convince the likes of me to resign of our bias in favour of yours.
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The Amiga is dead.
well observed. except that mine are working.
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And, it was a seriously over priced device when new.
Which is why I gravitated to other 68K based systems that offered better value.
As to the value of NG systems, while no one is insisting you join this community, at least they can run modern software.

"they cannot compete with what genuine amiga is"

Yes, they are not deathly slow with limited and expensive upgrade options.
im not so much interested to engage in that kind of arguments anymore. it doesnt actualy affect facts.
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And you are a fanatic.
see my answer above. seems asking you to be civil is really a waste of time. wonder why.
 

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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2014, 09:01:44 PM »
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... seems asking you to be civil is really a waste of time. wonder why.

Quite right actually.
I was discussing this with Andre Siegel recently, and I think its related to an innate need to cut through it and quickly establish the boundaries of a relationship.

We have an obvious difference of opinion here, but I at least look favorably of the devices in question.

And my a2000 still works too, when I choose to use it.
It still doesn't make the platform any less dead.
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

"You, got to stem the evil tide, and keep it on the the inside" - Rogers Waters

"God was never on your side" - Lemmy

Amiga! "Our appeal has become more selective"
 

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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2014, 09:04:54 PM »
Geeze, somebody is combative enough?  Just waiting for this to turn into another 10-page-thread going back and forth about whether the new hardware is actually "Amiga", etc.

Here we go, I'll bring the



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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2014, 09:54:30 PM »
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Geeze, somebody is combative enough?  Just waiting for this to turn into another 10-page-thread going back and forth about whether the new hardware is actually "Amiga", etc.

Here we go, I'll bring the



:crazy: :crazy:

It could go there.
At least the new machine runs AmigaOS, which is more than the planned Amiga Inc. machines would have.
Of course, most people conveniently forget that most calls for a new ISA ask for X86/x64 hardware.

We are an argumentative lot.
At least we know when to break out the snacks and beverages.
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

"You, got to stem the evil tide, and keep it on the the inside" - Rogers Waters

"God was never on your side" - Lemmy

Amiga! "Our appeal has become more selective"
 

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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2014, 10:01:21 PM »
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Quite right actually.
I was discussing this with Andre Siegel recently, and I think its related to an innate need to cut through it and quickly establish the boundaries of a relationship.

ok, apparently you have a problem.
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We have an obvious difference of opinion here, but I at least look favorably of the devices in question.

if it still makes you feel entiteled to call others names..well. i had my say and am done with it.
 

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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2014, 10:15:10 PM »
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ok, apparently you have a problem.

No, I'd have a problem if I kept that in.

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if it still makes you feel entiteled to call others names..well. i had my say and am done with it.

Obviously not since you are back.
However, since this isn't "getting hit over the head class", I don't mind you being here for an argument.

BTW - How would you feel if A-eon secured the right to call these Amigas?
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

"You, got to stem the evil tide, and keep it on the the inside" - Rogers Waters

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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2014, 10:51:51 PM »
sigh.. you are obviously mistaking me for vox. i didnt went rage on cusa when they secured the right to call their systems "amiga". it doesnt affect my genuine interests. are we done yet?
 

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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2014, 11:10:14 PM »
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

What we\'re witnessing is the sad, lonely crowing of that last, doomed cock.
 

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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2014, 11:16:57 PM »
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sigh.. you are obviously mistaking me for vox. i didnt went rage on cusa when they secured the right to call their systems "amiga". it doesnt affect my genuine interests. are we done yet?

No, but you're right, your not VOX.
You can still be reasoned with.
And its not like I can't appreciate your viewpoint, I used to share it.
But things change.
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

"You, got to stem the evil tide, and keep it on the the inside" - Rogers Waters

"God was never on your side" - Lemmy

Amiga! "Our appeal has become more selective"
 

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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2014, 11:58:40 PM »
Don't use f*ckbook!

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Re: AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 10, 2014, 02:38:44 AM »
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Don't use f*ckbook!

Hey, Andre says we can not make fun of a banned poster!
f*ckbook indeed. :hammer:
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

"You, got to stem the evil tide, and keep it on the the inside" - Rogers Waters

"God was never on your side" - Lemmy

Amiga! "Our appeal has become more selective"