My review of Pegasos+MorphOS

[Spidey]

Hello Amon_Re,

"Full boot time is 23 seconds?"

Well actually it's 25 seconds.
I clocked it a few times afterwards and it was everytime 25 seconds.

But do you find a full bootup of 25 seconds long?
I clocked the time from exact the moment I pushed the power button until harddisk activity was over and I was able to play around on the Ambient screen.

I have to say I've got 512 MB of (registered, ofcourse :-)) Ram and this takes a lot of time of the initial startup.
The whole "post" startup takes about 23 seconds, the software startup is about 2 seconds.

I checked these figures with friends of mine (they own pc's). The fastest one is a friend with WindowsXP. His total booting time is 35 seconds.

Could you give examples of computer systems that have quicker startup times? (ofcourse games consoles don't count :-D).
I honestly don't know of a system that can startup quicker than what I have at home (with my hardware configuration) and that it is available for the consumer market.

Thanks in advance,

Spidey

[Spidey]

Hi Amon_Re,

The gamespart:

"....Nice to see they included some games, but are Quake & Quake II full versions or demo's?..."

What I saw till now looked like full versions.
Nowhere notifications that it is a demo or so.
(I played all games a few times each)

From the 5 games, only HereticII is a demo (hence the name of the folder: HereticII-demo :-D)

I bought recently the new game Knights&Merchants and installed it on the harddrive.
I noticed immediately the quick loading time of the game and also when you quit the game, it (almost) instantly returns to the Ambient desktop.
I know for sure we'll see this kind of quick response times with OS4 too :-)

Spidey

[Spidey]

Hello takemehomegrandma,

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Full boot time is 23 seconds?
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More like 2-3 seconds I would say.

Well, those 2-3 seconds are only the loading time of the software.

I forgot to mention when you reset the computer, this too takes in total of 25 seconds.
(but this ofcourse logical, I just pressed the reset-switch :-D)

Spidey

[Spidey]

Hi Bodie,

Although I'm going for the A1/OS4 option, I do really like those Ambient (? is that the word) screenshots.  Very nice indeed, Warface and other Peg owners enjoy  :-) .

Thanks Bodie :-D

Spidey

[Zorro]

Thanks to Spidey and "the others" for this kind of reviews...

We now have real info about the real speed of various features of the PegasOS/MOS thing...

25 seconds... wow ! Let's hope that also the AOne/OS4 thing is capable of this (or better  :-) )

When can we test this ? I can't wait !!!  :rtfm:

[Spidey]

Hello Zorro,

"25 seconds... wow ! Let's hope that also the AOne/OS4 thing is capable of this (or better :-) )"

I think it will be as fast or faster now we saw the announcement of not needing registered RAM anymore :-D.
Furthermore both OS's (OS4 and MorphOS) aren't blown-up like most other OS's (to just be able to run the desktop) so the main difference will come from the hardware bootup. (I think :-))

Spidey

[JoannaK]

That 25 seconds  sounds quite a long time for what I have seen Pegasos (at Alt-party). But it may well be dependent of some hardware you are having on your machine. I'll comment more when I have mine.

[Warface]

I have made a hasty translation in the evening (dawn, to be precise), it's available at:

Review in english

Sorry for my poor english in advance :-)

[Spidey]

Hello JoannaK,

"...But it may well be dependent of some hardware you are having on your machine. I'll comment more when I have mine. "

I'm curious if it has something to do with my RAM.
So if someone with a Peg with different hardware configuration wants to give their total boot times, we could compare it.
You can see mine configuration in this thread! :-D

The software bootup could be less because now I see the MorphOS boot logo too. If I turn this off the software boottime would be a bit smaller than the 2-3 seconds of now.
(only, how to turn it off :-?:-))

Spidey

[Warface]

Spidey wrote:

The software bootup could be less because now I see the MorphOS boot logo too. If I turn this off the software boottime would be a bit smaller than the 2-3 seconds of now.
(only, how to turn it off :-?:-))

Find the drawer with the ahi and the two cgx icons.  One is cgxmode, and you need the other one. I can't remember the exact name of the option, but it must be there.

[HAK]

@ Spidey,

I'm curious if it has something to do with my RAM.
So if someone with a Peg with different hardware configuration wants to give their total boot times, we could compare it.

I only have 256 MByte but boot time is (more or less) the same.
I assume you also have the 5 seconds delay in the boot options enabled so you can stop booting and go into the OF part.

The software bootup could be less because now I see the MorphOS boot logo too. If I turn this off the software boottime would be a bit smaller than the 2-3 seconds of now.
(only, how to turn it off :-?:-))

Hm, how about "Bootlogo = NO" in the Monitor driver in devs?
(Haven't tried it myself, because it doesn't bother me).


Bye HAK

[Spidey]

Hi Warface,

Nice review :-)

You´ll do a review for OS4 too?

Spidey

[JoannaK]

@warface

Great. Thankyou for making this translation. :-)  :-)

[Warface]

Spidey wrote:
Hi Warface,

Nice review :-)

You´ll do a review for OS4 too?

Spidey

If I'll have the money for AmigaONE by then, or if it comes out for the Blizzard. If not, someone else here will surely make a review, I'm not the only article writer here :-)

Well, considering the size of MOS (i'd estimate that the OS itself isn't much bigger then 50MB), how long does the hardware init take?

Speaking of hardware init, does the Peg have a POST screen? I don't recall from what i saw @ WOASE.

As for WXP booting in 35secs, that's actually quite fast considering all the stuff XP pulls at booting (and Windows in general), for example, booting in Amithlon on a simple Duron 1.2Ghz from HD takes aprox 45seconds (Excluding Hardware init).

25 seconds certainly isn't long, but i'd like to know just what MOS does while booting

Amon_Re

I'm amased they included 2 full games, quake 2 is open source (the engine) but the game files are commercial, don't remember about Quake tho.

As for the responcetimes, what you describe their can be atributed to the fact that you get a fast controller, fast harddrive and a fast PPC native FS.

If you ever get the chance to play with amithlon (or Umimator) you'll see this largely here aswell.

Now to make some things clear, i am not an Emuhead, i'm just using amithlon as an example.

AOS4 should also have the same feeling in speed, for basicly the same reasons given here.

Amon_Re