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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: Lando on April 30, 2003, 08:57:07 PM
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I am sick of Amibench.
For the third time, I have sent money to someone selling Amiga stuff on Amibench and 2 months later, still nothing has arrived and no replies to my emails. The guy cashes my cheque and then nothing!
This is the last time I ever use Amibench until they have some sort of user registration system. I can't afford to keep throwing money away like this :o(
I advise anyone purchasing stuff from amibench to do some checking and asking around about the person you're buying from first, and if the price sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
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Was it a guy called Jon from Lancaster ? he is a known scammer on Amibench.
I recommend Loot (loot.com).
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A user registry that only registers people with credit cards?
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Wow! that really sucks :( I bought my A4000 and my Cyberstorm through Amibench and never had any problems :(
Were they expensive items?
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Tickly wrote:
Wow! that really sucks :( I bought my A4000 and my Cyberstorm through Amibench and never had any problems :(
Were they expensive items?
Hi tickly :-)
It was an A4000, which was under £50, (sounds cheap, but it had no CPU card or RAM.)
The one before that was a PIV card for £40, and the other was a couple of A12k mobo's for £30. So about £120 altogether.
I have bought several items from Amibench before and had no problems, but this is the third time out of four now that I have paid money and got nothing so I just don't feel comfortable using Amibench any more.
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Paul_Gadd wrote:
Was it a guy called Jon from Lancaster ? he is a known scammer on Amibench.
Amibench sucks ass, i recommend Loot (loot.com)
Nah it was some guy called Frank but I don't remember where he's from. I'll have a look at loot, cheers.
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I had this done to me by a guy from wales for a cd drive a few years back, I toyed with driving there and knocking on his door but that would have cost more than the amount I was stung for. I put the sh*the#ds email address on every mailing list, porn site and signed him up for everything I could find for about 2 months after, he probably changed his email address anyway but it made me feel a bit better at the time (pathetic I know :-( ).
I'm in Bedfordshire, let me know if he lives near me and I'll go around a have a word!!! :-D ;-)
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It's a bit unfair to categorize AmiBench in such a fashion. After all, they are performing a great service to the community and doing it admirably. They can't help it if a few of their sellers are scum.
Wayne
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@ Wayne
True, I have brought several things from there but now I only buy from people within an hours drive and pay when I collect the items.
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It's a bit unfair to categorize AmiBench in such a fashion.
Yeah your right. Wilson does a good job but really needs a better secure site to help stop bastard scammers and bastards who sell pirate software as original software.
I say name and shame the bastards.
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@Paul,
The question becomes,
1) How? With the Internet so easy to fake an identity, how do you make sure they are the right person?
2) Who pays for it all? The manhours to do such a task would be monumental. Unless AmiBench started charging (don't know if they do now), it would be impossible to cover the costs
3) How would they track down a faked ID, or extract revenge on someone who didn't follow through? Something like that would take a legal department and mui money.
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Like Amiga.org, Amibench is a free service, this guy does a lot for us just like Wayne and we are lucky to have both so we should condem the seller and not Amibench! I definately can understand the frustration but I have bought and sold via Amibench for sometime and always had great luck, sorry lightning struck you twice. :-( Which reminds me I need to do something for a certain Webmaster. :-)
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@Wayne
You are right, if you want to rip someone off then your going to do it no matter what but making it a lot harder for them will just piss them off and some will move elsewhere.
Something has to be done, what? who knows, but as it now i will stick with loot.
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@Lando
I'm really sorry to hear this has happened to you. I have used Amibench a couple o' times with no probs. I've also sent a cheque in good faith and received the goods fine.
I have actually had more trouble with ebay, even though it is meant to be 'safe' - I'm still chasing someone for over 300 quid, money I really can't afford to lose!
As with anything in life, its always the bad few who 'ck it up for everybody else.
Also, bear in mind that if you have e-mails from the guy that state he will send you the goods, you do, I believe have some grounds for pursuing him through a small claims court in the UK, phone your citizens advice bureau (perhaps e-mail him and threaten him with this, he might not be au fait with the law anyway and get scared and pay up/send you your goods). I would be bloody-minded enough to go after the guy, not for the money but the principle!
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Lando, you`ve still a way of getting your money back...take the git to the small claims court. AFAIK it`s free for sums under £500. (or it was when my Dad had to do it to someone). Just a matter of a little form to fill out.
Not sure if you have to do it at your local court or theirs though. Your local Citizens Advice Bureau should be able to help on that one.
I`ve bought a fair bit of stuff from Amibench over the years.. probably around £500-£600 worth, and have only lost out the once to some git that took the money and run, but that was only £10.
I`ve had problems with a couple of others..one guy said he had my cheque and kept promising to post the VLab motion card to me the next day, but after 3 weeks he stopped reply to my emails, and strangely he never cashed the cheque, so I had it cancelled :((
Judging from the recent spoof posts on Amibench, it looks like someone has an axe to grind in public..shame really, cos after all the crap of last year when Amibench shut down and then opened up again, this could be the last straw..
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I have used Amibench a few times, never had any problems. Maybe you have just been unlucky!
Although I agree, they probably do need a registration system. I think most people would not object to a small charge too.
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it isnt that hard to get a site secured if it's a very small... if you can have a 'seller' system where sellers need to be verified who they are and where they live and whatnot...it dosent seem to be to hard..
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PopSensation
Glasgow
Scotland
UK
Wanted : Buckets of hagis and a set of bag pipes for four of us whisky drinking slobs.
We require someone who will sell us knock off whisky (Bells prefered) but as long as we can get smashed from it any will do.
Send us a email.
Posted 30/4/03
URL (http://www.amibench.org/cgi-bin/view.pl?type=wanted&country=UK)
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I feel that (after reading about half this topic) there is a demand for, and definitely a place for, a neutral center for e-trading sites.
Basically my idea is:
Somebody sets up a bunch of cheap warehouses. For a small charge you can use this service (perhaps percentage on small items flat on large/expensiver) you send the item there, other person sends money (or vice versa) on both items, on the outside, a number that the warehouse company gives them. They check that they got all of the cash (both people must say yes to an online form, which could be held online for about a week) and the proper items. Then, they take the addresses they got (since every transaction will have its own identity number complete with all of this info.) and ship the money and products to the proper locations.
If not, they send out mail stating they haven't recieved either x or y (money or items) and hold the stuff until its reclaimed. (So if you no get your money, you can 'recall' your property and vice versa)
Anyone want to do this, it just makes so much sense, so many less scams.